--- Log opened Mon Jun 06 00:00:10 2011
--- Day changed Mon Jun 06 2011
00:00 < rore> wow, that almost made sense
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02:23 < AegNuddel> hello ... is there a way to get an imported picture to fit to the screen, or the canfas to fit to the picture that I import?  Either way is fine
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05:45  * pixelgeek still chuckling at http://twitter.com/#!/The_Ghostwriter/status/77047727749480449
09:33 < pixelgeek> Zelgadis, thank you for not pointing out that the about dialog issue had been talked about earlier in the day when I mentioned it to you yesterday....
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09:48 < prokoudine> how nice 0.63 crashes
09:48 < pixelgeek> ?
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13:02 < Zelgadis> pixelgeek: I thought you catching the logs. ^__^
13:02 < Zelgadis> OK, I'm back - at least I can get online from work..
13:03 < Zelgadis> And I missed the release party again :(
13:06 -!- genete [d90c1030@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.12.16.48] has joined #synfig
13:06 < genete> morning!
13:06 < Zelgadis> morning!
13:06 < Zelgadis> We got it! New release wohooo!
13:07 < genete> \o/
13:07 < Zelgadis> I'm terribly sorry for yesterday's absence - my router got hit by the thunder ^_^"
13:07 < genete> we should be aware of cairo + non native nvidia drivers problems though
13:08 < genete> what?
13:08 < genete> really?
13:08 < genete> ouch!
13:08 < genete> only the router has suffered?
13:08 < Zelgadis> yes. I'm bying new one today
13:08 < Zelgadis> well, they have troubles at telephone station too. No phone for now too.
13:09 < genete> doh!
13:10 < Zelgadis> I want to make minor updates to release notes page
13:10 < genete> I installed 0.63 into Ubuntu 10.10 in a virtual machine and it hangs when render
13:11 < Zelgadis> We have new translations to Polish language, right
13:11 < Zelgadis> ANd I want to replace illustration for guides to a bit more impressive one
13:11 < genete> maybe it is due to that cairo libraries are using the opengl capabilities of the card regardless the driver you're using by reading it directly
13:11 < Zelgadis> When render on when working on canvas?
13:12 < genete> yes, when scrubbing the time cursor
13:12 < Zelgadis> IIRC 0.63.00 rendering is not related with cairo...
13:12 < genete> or just place the time cursor anywhere
13:12 < Zelgadis> Ah, yes, then it's cairo + drivers issue
13:12 < genete> right
13:12 < genete> and yes, polish was not included
13:13 < Zelgadis> Don't distract yourself. People jenerally don't use synfig in virtual machines
13:13 < Zelgadis> *generally
13:13 < genete> but it is safe to modify the PR, there is not any other published yet, all the links points to the website
13:13 < Zelgadis> oK, so I can add Polish?
13:13 < Zelgadis> (at the bottom)
13:13 < genete> but people can be using nvidia cards without vendor drivers
13:14 < genete> sure please, modify it safely
13:14 < genete> during this afternoon I hope I can finish the pending stuff for spread the world
13:15 < Zelgadis> Let's see how many will complain. If there will be many, then we will add note to release notes and FAQ
13:17 < genete> I would like to stay apart from coding a period. I prefer to work on update the wiki. Meanwhile you can finish on setup the Campaings thing
13:18 < Zelgadis> OK, good plan
13:19 < genete> Also WE need some MORE volunteers to organize the bureacrat: regular challenges, splash challenges, releases, etc. My free time is getting more and more limited and I prefer to concentrte on code. 
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13:26 < genete> Zelgadis: can you replace this: "Creating of Advanced Outlines using the Draw Tool is currently impossible" by this "Creating of Advanced Outlines using the Draw Tool is not possible by now"
13:28 < Zelgadis> damn, thunderstorm here again
13:28 < Zelgadis> I must go off now
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13:46 < genete> pixelgeek: download links for windows fixed
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13:56 < Zelgadis> back again
13:59 < genete> those storms are very quick!
14:00 < Zelgadis> yes. It's still raining, but no more thunder anymore
14:00 < Zelgadis> I will replace the text you requested
14:00 < Zelgadis> The weather is very unstable here. Lots of bugs.
14:00 < genete> please read the logs of 40 minutes ago
14:01 < genete> I have a tiny request on press release
14:01 < Zelgadis>  I will replace the text you requested ^__^
14:44 < Zelgadis> OK, release notes page updated
14:49 < prokoudine> 0.63.00 crashed for me already today :)
14:49 < Zelgadis> Hi, prokoudine 
14:49 < prokoudine> while using width tool for advanced blines
14:49 < Zelgadis> Linux or Win?
14:50 < prokoudine> what do you think? :)
14:50 < Zelgadis> (you don't look like the one who use Win)
14:50 < prokoudine> :)
14:50 < Zelgadis> And what have you did?
14:50 < prokoudine> I was just dragging stuff around really
14:50 < prokoudine> nothing fancy
14:51 < prokoudine> I'll start from gdb next time
14:51 < Zelgadis> What is your distro? And have you compiled by yourself o used packages?
14:51 < prokoudine> used your deb
14:51 < prokoudine> on Ubuntu 10.04
14:52 < Zelgadis> OK
14:53 < prokoudine> what happened to duck on the splash anyway?
14:54 < Zelgadis> duck?
14:54 < synfigbot> Do you think and the duck is bigger than the circle?
14:54 < prokoudine> there was a contest
14:54 < synfigbot> Well, there is small note about the Rotate Layer
14:55 < prokoudine> btw
14:55 < prokoudine> I'd really appreciate a hint
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14:55 < prokoudine> how the hell do I finish drawing blines? :)
14:55 < prokoudine> double-click doen't work
14:55 < Zelgadis> Select other tool
14:55 < prokoudine> dooooooooooooh
14:55 < prokoudine> you could have fixed that really
14:56 < Zelgadis> Or there is "gear" button in Tool Options panel
14:56 < prokoudine> oh noes
14:56 < prokoudine> please tell me you will fix it
14:56 < Zelgadis> Fix what? ^__^
14:57 < prokoudine> you really don't think it's okay, no?
14:58 < Zelgadis> Well, I'm not even a dev. ^____^
14:58 < prokoudine> *sigh*
15:00 < Zelgadis> Be optimistic. ^___^
15:00 < prokoudine> the width tool is still hell to figure out
15:01 < prokoudine> as well as using it for advanced bline
15:01 < Zelgadis> Well, we need a wizrd panel, who always tells user what he should do. ^____^
15:02 < prokoudine> not really :)
15:02 < Zelgadis> But that is a work for one more dev (and we don't have it)
15:02 < Zelgadis> http://synfig.org/wiki/Width_Tool
15:02 < prokoudine> are there any hotkeys for switching between tools?
15:04 < Zelgadis> http://synfig.org/wiki/Keyboard_Shortcuts#Hotkeys_Visual_Guide
15:05 < prokoudine> eeeek
15:05 < prokoudine> 1. Two keys for switching between tools is evil
15:05 < prokoudine> 2. UI never displays even them
15:07 < Zelgadis> Not that evil
15:07 < Zelgadis> I always have  my thumb on ALT
15:08 < prokoudine> you know, I really wish drawing in Synfig was more Inkscape-like
15:09 < Zelgadis> UI never displaying - true. There is a lot of work everywhere on Synfig. It isn't perfect. But it's getting better. ~_^
15:09 < prokoudine> that I believe :)
15:11 < Zelgadis> got to go! Bye!
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15:15 < genete> hi prokoudine 
15:15 < genete> please provide a crash sample file and I'll try to reproduce the problem in a virtual machine
15:16 < genete> or a step by step recipe to produce the crash
15:16 < prokoudine> well, if you carefully read what I wrote you definitely know that I have neither ;)
15:17 < prokoudine> but when I have either of them, I won't think twice before letting you know :)
15:17 < prokoudine> you have my word for it :)
15:19 < genete> did yuou say 10.04? I'm on 10.04! I don't remember have any crash with width tool
15:20 < prokoudine> on the whole I'd love Synfig to get UI and tools revamp
15:20 < genete> yes, they need a big push
15:20 < prokoudine> amount of filters is large enough
15:21 < prokoudine> I know I'm Inkscape biased
15:21 < prokoudine> but so many things are difficult to figure out
15:22 < genete> <prokoudine> I was just dragging stuff around really <<< dragging ducks with the width tool?
15:22 < synfigbot> Well, the width tool is still hell to figure out
15:22 < genete> I seriously have to talk to pixelgeek about his bot
15:22 < prokoudine> hehe
15:23 < genete> I'm feeling day by day like 2001's actor ... and remember what was the end of HAL...
15:33 < genete> Width tool options are broken in Windows version
15:34 < genete> looks like I have introduced local problems with the inclusion of the units at the radious of influence
15:36 < prokoudine> hm
15:37 < prokoudine> I'm sorry, but I just don't see how I can make use of thins new advanced bline
15:37 < prokoudine> I enabled the checkbox before drawing new bline
15:37 < prokoudine> It was enabled for me in fact
15:38 < prokoudine> But I just don't see what you have on the screenshots
15:38 < prokoudine> Do I need to draw a pentagram and caste few spells?
15:38 < prokoudine> Sacrifice a virgin? :)
15:38 < genete> have you effectively created the advanced outline on the layer stack?
15:38 < prokoudine> yes, the layer is there
15:38 < synfigbot> Hmmm. I think there is one may contest alive: http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=17!At=2730
15:38 < genete> select it
15:38 < prokoudine> already
15:39 < genete> press ALT-5 to show widhtpoints ducks
15:39 < prokoudine> ah
15:39 < genete> there are two types of ducks: position and width, you can animate any of them
15:40 < genete> right click on the widthpoint position duck (the one tied to the bline) will open more possibilities 
15:40 < genete> like make it stop the render using a type of tip or insert a new one on the bline
15:41 < prokoudine> ok, thanks :)
15:42 < genete> please don't forget to help us with the width tool crash if it persists
15:43 < prokoudine> sure
15:47 < prokoudine> genete, when was stroboscope layer added?
15:50 < prokoudine> genete, next LGM will probably be in Berlin
15:50 < prokoudine> genete, just so you know :)
15:50 < genete> stroboscope ws introduced in the previous release
15:51 < prokoudine> ok
15:51 < genete> cool, I'll take it in consideration
15:52 < prokoudine> travel is sponsored
15:52 < synfigbot> travel is sponsored
15:52 < prokoudine> accomodation not
15:52 < prokoudine> but Berlin is comparatively cheap
15:53 < prokoudine> is synfigbot mimicing some disfigurable brain desease?
15:56 < genete> don't waste energy trying to understand synfigbot
15:56 < synfigbot> genete, synfigbot is probably here to serve
15:56 < genete> see it?
15:57  * prokoudine trying to recall how ignoring command on IRC works
16:36 < prokoudine> genete, any performance boost with Cairo already?
16:37 < prokoudine> genete, and what happened to OpenGL branch?
17:46 < prokoudine> *sigh*
17:46 < prokoudine> and how do I close a bline?
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18:15 < genete> prokoudine: we have only ported ducks related rendered. Canvas render has not ported yet due to png bit compatibility problems.
18:15 < genete> so there is not visible performance
18:16 < genete> opengl is not maintained by anyone due to lack of knowledge
18:16 < prokoudine> i see
18:16 < synfigbot> I'm sure the biggest one I see now is that Shaba1's vista pen pad does not work
18:16 < genete> to close a bline right click on it and choose Loop Bline
19:50 < prokoudine> another things to improve :)
19:58 < genete> prokoudine: which things? :)
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20:04 < prokoudine> closing blines easily
20:45 < genete> prokoudine: can you describe an easiest way to close a bline?
20:46 < prokoudine> double-clicking on starting node
20:46 < prokoudine> that's how it works everywhere I tried
20:51 < genete> and unloop?
20:53 < prokoudine> unloop?
20:58 < genete> yes, open it back
21:02 < prokoudine> is it common enough operation that couldn't be put to context menu?
21:06 < genete> I mean, it is reasonable to double click on the first (last) blinepoint to close the bline. To un-close (that is, open) it back, double click again is reasonable?
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21:07 < genete> I'm just trying to tie how is the desired workflow do perform and to unperform the same action
21:13 < prokoudine> hm
21:13 < prokoudine> does unclosing work after you work on other objects?
21:17 < genete> I think that we are not talking the same language... :)
21:18 < genete> currently loop and unloop a bline is made by two actions. User can reach those actions using the contextual menu from a right click over the object (the bline)
21:18 < genete> find another way to access those two actions is a good idea if it improve the workflow
21:19 < genete> I agree that double click on the first or last blinepoint is reasonable to trigger the loop action, but my question is:
21:19 < genete> if the bline is currently closed, double click on any of the blinepoints, is the right (desired) way to unloop it?
21:33 < prokoudine> maybe
21:33 < synfigbot> I bet maybe it is due to that cairo libraries are using the opengl capabilities of the card regardless the driver you're using by reading it directly
21:34 < prokoudine> somebody shoot the bot already :)
21:41 < genete> I think that it grabs everything I say and randomly mixes it when some special words are said (I think, maybe, etc.)
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22:18 < genete> ah, here comes the dad of the creature...
22:21 < pixelgeek> Do I need to go read the logs?
22:28 < prokoudine> pixelgeek, just remove the bot :)
22:28 < prokoudine> pixelgeek, or make it shut up when it isn't asked :)
22:29 < prokoudine> pixelgeek, he's rally getting restless
22:29 < prokoudine> really
22:29 < synfigbot> I bet And really blender is not that hard
22:29 < prokoudine> see?
22:29 < synfigbot> the biggest one I see now is that Shaba1's vista pen pad does not work
22:35 < pixelgeek> Yes.  I'll take care of him tonight.
22:36 < pixelgeek> forget really
22:36 < pixelgeek> forget see
22:36 < genete> maybe just giving us superpower to make him forget things would be enough...
22:37 < genete> forget maybe
22:37 < pixelgeek> yes
22:37 < pixelgeek> How do we do this.
22:37 < pixelgeek> I think you have to log into him
22:37 < genete> I have to tell him to forget just after said??
22:38 < genete> please tell me how to log into him, (again)
22:38 < pixelgeek> yes - he'll 'learn' anything in the form 'blah is blah'
22:38 < pixelgeek> The current release of Synfig is 0.63.00
22:38 < pixelgeek> current release
22:38 < synfigbot> Did you know that The current release of Synfig is 0.63.00?
22:39 < genete> Genete is a good guy
22:39 < genete> genete
22:39 < synfigbot> I guess Genete is a good guy
22:39 < genete> \o/
22:39 < pixelgeek> forget genete
22:39 < synfigbot> pixelgeek: someone said that Genete is a good guy
22:39 < pixelgeek> genete
22:39 < pixelgeek> Gone!
22:39 < genete> genete
22:39 < prokoudine> prokoudine is a badass
22:39 < synfigbot> Hmmm. I think prokoudine is a badass
22:40 < pixelgeek> Try making him forget that
22:40 < genete> forget prokoudine 
22:40 < synfigbot> genete: prokoudine is a badass
22:40 < genete> prokoudine
22:40 < pixelgeek> Yes, I don't think he recognizes you.
22:40 < genete> seems it did
22:40 < pixelgeek> Ah - did he IM you only to tell you Prokudine was remonved?
22:41 < genete> eing?
22:41 < genete> ah yes
22:41 < genete> he did
22:41 < genete> [17:40] -synfigbot- 'prokoudine' forgotten.
22:41 < pixelgeek> :)
22:42 < genete> forget me synfigbot!!!
22:42 < synfigbot> Well, synfigbot is here to serve
22:42 < genete> lol
22:42 < genete> great
22:42 < pixelgeek> So yuo can help the bot learn or I think there's a flag I can set to not make him as verbose.
22:42 < genete> he told me that 'me synfigbot!!!' was not found
22:42 < genete> yes, please
22:43 < genete> something like: forget all
22:43 < pixelgeek> OK - I'll have to dig into the documentation tonight.
22:43 < genete> and: remind back
22:43 < genete> ok, take it easy
22:43 < pixelgeek> How's everything else?
22:44 < genete> I have bot power now... mwaha hah aha! >:(
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22:47 < pixelgeek> I can't access external websites...  Which is odd given that IRC is working...
22:47  * pixelgeek hates firewalls
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22:53 < pixelgeek> forget there
22:53 < synfigbot> Did you know that there is small note about the Rotate Layer?
22:55 < pixelgeek> forget the width tool
22:55 < synfigbot> I bet the width tool is still hell to figure out
22:55 < pixelgeek> not any more
22:56 < genete> pixelgeek: any email preferred to send the cms account details?
22:56 < synfigbot> CMS might be working for me again
22:57 < genete> forget CMS
22:57 < synfigbot> Did you know that CMS is working for me again?
22:57 < pixelgeek> pxegeek at users.sourceforge.net
22:58 < pixelgeek> there
22:58 < pixelgeek> ok
22:58 < pixelgeek> ^^ test
22:58 < genete> I'll create a new user for you. You'll receive login details at that address
22:58 < pixelgeek> travel
22:58 < synfigbot> I guess travel is sponsored
22:59 < pixelgeek> froget travel
22:59 < synfigbot> Didn't you say travel is sponsored?
22:59 < pixelgeek> forget travel
22:59 < synfigbot> I heard that travel is sponsored
22:59 < pixelgeek> thanks genete
22:59 < pixelgeek> I used to have one, but that may have been a couple of servers ago.
23:00 < pixelgeek> test i see
23:01 < genete> if you ahve received the mail please test it
23:01 < genete> you should change the password ;)
23:01 < pixelgeek> BTW, I agree with Prokudine about finishing lines - it's a pain to have to toggle to another tool to end the line.
23:01 < genete> toogle to another tool?
23:02 < genete> it is accesible by context menu *always*
23:02 < pixelgeek> When you want to finish a line, yes.
23:02 < genete> oooh
23:02 < genete> I understood to close a bline (loop it)
23:02 < pixelgeek> test maybe
23:02 < pixelgeek> maybe
23:02 < genete> not to *create* the current outline or region
23:03 < pixelgeek> yes, to create the current outline.
23:03 < prokoudine> finishing a path with double click should work too
23:03 < prokoudine> swithcin to a different tool is pain
23:03 < genete> yes, double click to finish the path is good too
23:03 < pixelgeek> I use a stylus...
23:03 < prokoudine> especially since it involves pressing 2 keys, not 1
23:04  * prokoudine is Illustrator/Inkscape guys, he likes one key shortcuts for tools
23:05 < genete> we have to redefine all the tools completely. I fully agree on that
23:05 < genete> and have the tool options so far away from the toolbox is a pain too
23:05 < pixelgeek> And have all the windows dockable :)
23:05 < genete> they should be in the same window (or together at last)
23:05 < pixelgeek> Jinx!
23:06 < prokoudine> pixelgeek, amen to that :)
23:06 < genete> good good, this enthusiasm after one release is a good sign! :)
23:06 < pixelgeek> I'm caught up on the logs.  I think I got all the triggers for Synfibot recently
23:06 < pixelgeek> Just watch him prove me wrong
23:07 < prokoudine> pixelgeek, no worries
23:07 < prokoudine> pixelgeek, if you want someone bitching, I'm your man
23:07 < genete> I can easily trigger synfigbot with a few of my bestialities ;)
23:07 < pixelgeek> I was really very despondant before nikitakit came up with a patch to allow me to build on Windows again.  
23:08 < genete> btw, I have found a windows bug that doesnt' happen in the linux one
23:08 < genete> the width tool raidus of influence doesn't scale well in windows
23:08 < genete> and it does work fine (as I remember) in linux
23:09 < genete> I need about 1000 pixels to have a normal influence radius
23:09 < genete> where in linux is about 50
23:29 < pixelgeek> Really?  I worked well for me when I tried it
23:29 < pixelgeek> What is 'normal' anyway?
23:29 < pixelgeek> And is there any way to use the width tool to make a line smaller?  
23:30 < pixelgeek> I can't use negative values of growth...
23:33 < genete> use CTRL when clicking and it will shrink the width
23:34 < genete> the normal size of radius of influence is scaled to same size than when you're at 100% zoom
23:35 < genete> so a 60 pixels of radius of influence is 60 pixels comparable when zoom is 100%
23:36 < genete> but I see that a 600 pixels gives me a raidus about 30 pixels at 100% zoom wich is not normal
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23:37 < Planetnik> Hello ppl
23:37 < synfigbot> Hi there!
23:38 < Planetnik> What I can animate simple svg file?
23:38 < Planetnik> for example http://www.openclipart.org/detail/migrating-penguin-by-moini
23:38 < genete> hi Planetnik 
23:38 < Planetnik> when I import it it hava problems
23:39 < Planetnik> genete, hello
23:39 < synfigbot> Hi there!
23:39 < genete> Planetnik: SVG support is not fully done
23:39 < genete> you can try to open the artwork with Inkscape
23:39 < genete> then save it as Plain SVG
23:39 < genete> then import the saved from Synfig Studio
23:40 < genete> this SVG doens't look so complex so it must import well
23:40 < Planetnik> wow, interesting
23:40 < Planetnik> I try 
23:41 < Planetnik> 2. problem or idea
23:41 < Planetnik> is any converter synfig to povray?
23:41 < pixelgeek> (shading on the rotor blades may not translate)
23:41 < pixelgeek> No converter synfig to povray.
23:41 < genete> synfig to povray? IIRC povray is a ray tracer
23:42 < pixelgeek> genete: I don't see an email from CMS yet.   
23:42 < genete> no such kind of things
23:42 < genete> pixelgeek: ok, I'll send it for you
23:42 < genete> I'll send the email to the one of gmail, ok?
23:43 < pixelgeek> OK
23:43 < Planetnik> yes raytracer, but synfig have layers
23:43 < Planetnik> objects
23:44 < pixelgeek> 2D objects
23:44 < Planetnik> nice idea to render animation with raytracer
23:44 < Planetnik> yes, 2D is posible to convert to 3D ;)
23:44 < Planetnik> ;(
23:44 < Planetnik> 1. simple svg not working
23:44 < Planetnik> http://www.bankfotek.pl/image/997166.jpeg
23:44 < pixelgeek> Well, we don't have a converter, and I don't suppose it's high on anyone's list to write one. 
23:45 < Planetnik> anybody can import this image http://www.openclipart.org/detail/316 to synfig?
23:45 < genete> pixelgeek: sent
23:45 < pixelgeek> thx
23:46 < pixelgeek> Like the password!
23:46 < genete> ^__^
23:46 < Planetnik> or other svg files
23:47 < Planetnik> i use 0.62.02
23:47 < synfigbot> Well, 0.62.02 is the stable release, yes
23:47 < genete> Planetnik: did you try to import to Inkscape and then export to Plain SVG before import into Studio?
23:47 < Planetnik> yes
23:47 < synfigbot> Planetnik: someone said that yes - he'll 'learn' anything in the form 'blah is blah'
23:47 < pixelgeek> forget yet
23:47 < genete> The stable release is 0.63.00
23:47 < pixelgeek> forget yes
23:48 < genete> remember that synfigbot
23:48 < synfigbot> I guess synfigbot is here to serve
23:48 < pixelgeek> Stable release?
23:48 < synfigbot> The stable release is 0.63.00
23:48 < Planetnik> As soon as the one suggested I did.
23:48 < genete> and you obtatin that jpeg you have shown us right?
23:48 < pixelgeek> Forget 0.62.02
23:48 < synfigbot> I bet 0.62.02 is the stable release, yes
23:49 < Planetnik> If you do not believe me ask yourself a try.
23:49 < genete> Planetnik: we have not modified the SVG import module since 0.62.02 so I don't think anyone can do it better. 
23:49 < genete> (I dont' have Inkscape in this computer so I cannot test)
23:50  * Planetnik install it ;)
23:50 < genete> probably the rest of the face of the lion is behind the other layers, due to mistakes when importing
23:50 < genete> (not my pc)
23:51 < Planetnik> ok, what I can to do now?
23:51 < Planetnik> What I can 
23:51 < genete> I strongly reccomend to try to use the built in drawings tools form Synfig Studio. 
23:51 < Planetnik> How do I bold boundary
23:51 < genete> You will have two benefits: First create your own artwork, second make the artwork ready for animation
23:52 < Planetnik> I use pencil and convert it in to inkscape to vectors
23:52 < genete> because import and animate (a morphing animation type) is not a good idea)
23:53 < genete> if the animation is cutout you can use external artowork tools but if you want to morph animate then draw inside Synfig
23:53 < genete> you said: How do I bold boundary <<< what does it mean?
23:53 < genete> how do I add an outline to a region?
23:56 < genete> pixelgeek: http://imagebin.org/157024
23:57 < Planetnik> yes outline
23:57 < Planetnik> my english is horrible
23:57 < synfigbot> my english is horrible
23:57 < genete> Planetnik: looking to the imported lion, you can see how many vertices has been created to define the hairs of the face? They can be only a few if you directly draw then in Synfig
23:57 < Planetnik> no nev
23:57 < Planetnik> I need change outline from svg
23:58 < Planetnik> genete, This is simple example
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