--- Log opened Mon May 10 00:00:04 2010 02:57 -!- puncherbick [~k@70.239.199.5] has joined #synfig 02:59 < puncherbick> I need to clean up my pencil tests. I will probably use synfigstudio, but what alternatives do I have on Linux? I tried Pencil (too buggy), Gimp (no vector brush), Ktoon (too, too buggy), Inkscape (no animation capabilities). 03:08 -!- Yaco [~Franco@201.255.250.221] has joined #synfig 03:22 -!- pixelgeek [~chatzilla@c-71-59-141-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #synfig 03:23 -!- puncherbick [~k@70.239.199.5] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 04:13 -!- Zelgadis [~zelgadis@92.124.226.74] has joined #synfig 04:36 -!- nikitakit [~4c5f894e@gateway/web/freenode/x-qtzghmnorxoupwek] has joined #synfig 04:38 -!- Zelgadis [~zelgadis@92.124.226.74] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 05:48 -!- Yaco [~Franco@201.255.250.221] has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 05:58 -!- nikitakit [~4c5f894e@gateway/web/freenode/x-qtzghmnorxoupwek] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:40 < pixelgeek> 'night all 06:42 -!- pixelgeek [~chatzilla@c-71-59-141-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]] 08:30 -!- Kunalagon [~Kunalagon@195.178.32.28] has joined #synfig 09:25 -!- Karl_Stiler [~el_kallo@aktaia.intevation.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:37 -!- Karl_Stiler [~el_kallo@aktaia.intevation.org] has joined #synfig 10:13 -!- genete [~d90c1031@gateway/web/freenode/x-mhageasqcjqghlpb] has joined #synfig 13:19 -!- Vermind [~vermind@cs172074.pp.htv.fi] has joined #synfig 13:22 < Vermind> I have a canvas that makes synfig studio crash ( segfault ), trying to preview or trying to even double-click and see the canvas. I would like to repair the canvas, or delete it. I could reconstruct parts of it from old renders, but I need the rest of the file intact. Any ideas? 13:25 < genete> hi Vermind 13:26 < genete> which version of Synfig Studio do you have? and which operating system? 13:27 < Vermind> I tried with both devel snapshot 0.62.00-20100312 (downloaded today) and the version present in Ubuntu repositories, 0.62. I am running Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit 13:28 < Vermind> I just gunzipped the sifz file and am looking through it for pointers, and I am about to install synfig on a windows7 machine and check if it fails too 13:30 < genete> what I reccomend is to share the file to see if someone else can open it. 13:30 -!- Zelgadis [~zelgadis@92.124.226.99] has joined #synfig 13:30 < genete> use the forum for that 13:30 < Zelgadis> hi ^___^ 13:31 < genete> hi zelgadito ;) 13:31 < Vermind> Does this loock suspicious? an empty use="" for canvas? 13:31 < genete> Vermind: what's the console message when it crashes? 13:32 < Vermind> no message 13:32 < Zelgadis> genete: I haven't tested the cursor modifications. But I think if nikitakit will make modifications fixing sticky keys, then the code for changing cursors will be different. 13:32 < Vermind> just segfault 13:32 < genete> ok, let's wait for nikitakit modifications then 13:33 < Zelgadis> genete: I suggest to go different way. Leave code catching keypress events as is... 13:33 < genete> Vermind: I'm not expert for suf syntax. Maybe you can create a similar file and see if it says use="something" 13:34 < genete> Zelgadis: I know, The code for cursor modification is easy to adapt to any other key grabbing situation 13:34 < Zelgadis> ...but add check for signal_enter_notify_event for canvas window widget.And re-check which keys pressed at this moment. 13:34 < genete> Zelgadis: I've seen your post in the forum but haven't got enought time to look at it 13:35 < Zelgadis> OK. ^__^ 13:35 < genete> Zelgadis: looks like you're opening your eyes to C++ coding? ;) 13:36 < genete> Vermind: replace "suf" with "sif" in the previous post. :) 13:36 < Vermind> I commented out the canvas param animation section 13:37 < Vermind> the file now at least loads that canvas, but I seem to have lost all the objects there 13:37 < genete> create another canvas and place the objects there (in the sif file I mean) 13:37 < Vermind> preview also works, but for the part of that canvas, it shows just empty transparency 13:38 < Zelgadis> genete: Me? *innocent eyes* ^____^ 13:38 < Vermind> hmm, yeah 13:38 < genete> Vermind: well, at last you have narrowed the problem 13:39 < Vermind> those objects are lost 13:40 < Vermind> it seems the recovery after the first crash did not recover them 13:42 < genete> we should add the feature: "save a copy" to Synfig Studio. 13:42 < genete> it would help people keep working file safe, specially when they are huge or very complex, or tends to crash ^__^ 13:43 < Vermind> ok, how do I move a canvas that is the child of another to the top level? 13:44 < genete> using Synfig Studio or hacking the sif file? 13:45 < Vermind> using the studio preferably 13:45 < genete> :) 13:45 < Vermind> the hacking way I can figure out 13:46 < genete> Layers list allow drag and drop 13:46 < genete> just select the canvas to move and drag and drop where you want 13:46 < Vermind> canvas browser doesnt 13:46 < genete> cut and paste works too 13:46 < genete> ah 13:46 < genete> did you exported the canvases? 13:46 < genete> export* 13:46 < Vermind> yeah 13:47 < Vermind> ok, I want to delete the old child canvas 13:47 < Vermind> I moved the layers instead of the canvas now 13:47 < Vermind> but I have the empty old canvas left 13:47 < genete> the only way is open the exported canvas in its individual window, select the stuff from there and copy/cut and paste elsewhere 13:48 < genete> you can open an exported canvas by double clic the canvas list entry in the canvas browser 13:48 < Vermind> yeah, did that, moved the objects 13:50 < Vermind> do I need to hack to kill the old canvas? 13:50 < Zelgadis> Vermind: yes 13:50 < Zelgadis> Open your sif file and manually delete corresponding text from there 13:52 < genete> one of those days we will learn how to un-export a canvas :) 13:52 < Zelgadis> Vermind: those lines are: 13:53 < Zelgadis> ... 13:53 < Zelgadis> After 13:53 < Vermind> do I remove ? 13:54 < Zelgadis> No, don't remove 13:54 < Zelgadis> Look for with id you want to delete 13:54 < Zelgadis> then look for next 13:54 < Vermind> it worked 13:56 < Vermind> I had a sifz, so I renamed it .gz and used the archive manager to open,edit and re-save the modified xml file inside 13:57 < genete> that's a good tip for non expert linux users 13:58 < Vermind> yeah, better tell them to copy it first so if they make a mistake they dont lose anything. And as the xml format seems to use ascii only chars, gedit opens it without complaining, so this can be done in ubuntu with all default programs 13:58 < Zelgadis> ^__^ 13:59 < Zelgadis> Vermind: It's utf-8, not ascii. ^_^ 14:00 < Vermind> even better. 14:01 < genete> Zelgadis: you won the splash challenge!!!!! 14:01 < genete> Congratulations!!! 14:01 < genete> (I voted your entry :-P) 14:01 < Zelgadis> What? It's already closed? 14:01 < genete> yeah! 14:01 < Zelgadis> Wow!!! 14:01 < genete> errr 14:01 < genete> no! 14:02 < genete> there are a few hours pending... 14:02 < Zelgadis> Ok, everything still can change. ^___^ 14:02 < genete> one vote of difference! 14:02 < genete> I wish a dual splash screen with random display on each session ^____^ 14:03 < Vermind> where can I see this splash contest? 14:05 < Zelgadis> http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1149 14:13 -!- rylleman [~david@c213-89-96-87.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #synfig 14:37 -!- Vermind [~vermind@cs172074.pp.htv.fi] has left #synfig [] 14:42 -!- Zelgadis [~zelgadis@92.124.226.99] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 15:58 -!- Kunalagon [~Kunalagon@195.178.32.28] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:04 -!- Zelgadis [~zelgadis@92.124.226.99] has joined #synfig 16:45 -!- Karl_Stiler [~el_kallo@aktaia.intevation.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:35 -!- Yaco [~Franco@201.255.250.221] has joined #synfig 18:02 -!- rylleman [~david@c213-89-96-87.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:12 < CIA-10> synfig: Konstantin Dmitriev zelgadis_master * r6c5449b382 synfig/synfig-studio/src/gtkmm/app.cpp: Add comments in the code about the recent dialog sizes problem fix. 18:12 -!- Zelgadis [~zelgadis@92.124.226.99] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 18:17 -!- genete [~d90c1031@gateway/web/freenode/x-mhageasqcjqghlpb] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:23 -!- Yaco [~Franco@201.255.250.221] has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 18:24 -!- Yaco [~Franco@201.255.250.221] has joined #synfig 19:14 -!- Yaco [~Franco@201.255.250.221] has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 19:30 -!- Yaco [~Franco@201.255.250.221] has joined #synfig 19:41 -!- Yaco [~Franco@201.255.250.221] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:41 -!- Animeking [~Animeking@adsl-233-245-121.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] --- Log closed Tue May 11 00:00:22 2010