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01:04 < nikitakit_> pixelgeek: your Windows - single threaded commit uncomments the line "#define SINGLE_THREADED" for Windows
01:04 < nikitakit_> However, I think that line should be removed altogether
01:04 < nikitakit_> It causes errors if the compile script does not define the variable anyway
01:05 < nikitakit_> And otherwise it just redefines an existing variable (causing a warning)
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03:21 < pixelgeek> testing
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03:55 < nikitakit_> are you working on a new logging bot?
03:56 < slogger_jr> Well, I figured that the VPS wasn't doing us many favours these days...
03:58 < slogger_jr> I need to figure out where to host the logs though
04:00 < nikitakit_> yeah... too bad sf can't really do that
04:01 < nikitakit_> we *could* hope that dooglus' logger will keep working, though
04:10 < pixelgeek> Well, that would certainly be good for a short term solution, I'd like to have an official Synfig logging solution - just in case dooglus is off cycling somewhere and his service becomes unavailable.
04:11  * pixelgeek not having much luck running irssi under windows. :(
04:13 < nikitakit_> maybe try another client?
04:13 < slogger_jr> or another host :)
04:14 < pixelgeek> meh - I'm going to think about it some more, but another night.
04:14 < pixelgeek> 'night all
04:14 < nikitakit_> 'night
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06:52 < nikitakit_> What's a good name for a combined move+rotate+scale+smoothmove tool?
06:53 < nikitakit_> The name "normal" appears to be hardwired somewhere (maybe even gtk), so any tool named "normal" cannot display tool options
06:59 < nikitakit_> If in the line `Smach::state<StateNormal_Context>("normal")' (state_normal.cpp) normal is replaced with any other word,
06:59 < nikitakit_> the tool can then have options. Otherwise, the toolbox defaults to being blank
07:00 < nikitakit_> Please tell me if you have any idea why this happens
07:01 < nikitakit_> * toolbox -> tool options box
07:08 < nikitakit_> (you'll have to replace "normal" with that other word in iconcontroller.cpp as well)
07:08 < nikitakit_> if you want icons
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09:36 < genete> [09:35] -ChanServ- [#synfig] This channel is LOGGED, see http://synfig.org/Contact <<<<<< how to change this?
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10:30 < rore> 'morning
10:32 < rore> genete: this is the entry message, I believe. It can be changed with /msg chanserv SET #synfig ENTRYMSG Our beautiful message with contact url 
10:32 < rore> unless the entry message is the "#synfig :http://synfig.org" but I guess this one is just the url associated with the chan that my client displays as a message
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11:37 < genete> thanks rore, maybe we should fix the Contact page first ^_^''
11:45 < krish> hiahahha
11:45 < krish> guys
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14:09 < prokoudine> nikitakit_: the name would be Transform tool
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15:56 < genete> nikitakit, TRotScale Tool ;)
15:58 < genete> by the way, anyone who is logged in in the #synfig channel can log the conversation and paste it to the sf server later. If the conversation deserves the worth fo course.
15:59 < genete> just tell to your chat client to save the logs somewhere. Most of the chat clients can do it
16:03 < genete> nikitakit, and all. Yesterday I was busy teaching a new guy about synfig classes and how's supposed it works. His intentions is to start documenting things in a doxigen format. I've given him git write rights at the moment.
16:03 < genete> he is a computer programming student so until he gets a job, seems to be a good contributor. 
16:04 < genete> Also teaching him allows me to understand and complete my own knowledge about synfig code
16:04 < genete> We have started by the very basic sinfig-core code
16:04 < genete> Node->Layers, Canvas, Valuenodes, etc.
16:05 < genete> let's see how far we go :)
16:05 < genete> Talking about other kind of things,
16:05 < genete> I think I will disable email confirmation for the new users in the wiki
16:06 < genete> I'll try to create a dummy user from a secure place and try to ban that user within the wiki admin tools. 
16:06 < genete> I want to check it before open the door to spammers
16:09 < prokoudine> just get some whitewash
16:09 < prokoudine> and ket them step in
16:09 < prokoudine> let
16:09 < prokoudine> and see who will get the laugh
16:09 < genete> hi prokoudine 
16:09 < prokoudine> hello, dear sir :)
16:10 < genete> Transform is the correct name btw, ;)
16:10 < genete> Edit Tool can be good too
16:11 < genete> but we can do funny things like "Duck'o matic Tool" ;)
16:19 < rore> I would prefer Transform, too, please ;) 
16:20 < genete> hi rore :)
16:21 < genete> rore: you can prepare for the next month challenge... it will be: "Design for the New Transform Tool"
16:22 < genete> and this will be the first month wihtout an entry! OMG!
16:22 < genete> well, the forum didn't help so much :)
16:23 < rore> hmm, next month is easy then, just copy/paste from the Gimp UI guy, or something XD 
16:23 < rore> I must admit, I don't even know what is this month challenge, I really didn't pay attention
16:25 < genete> it was not a lucky seelction: "Do a tutorial"
16:26 < genete> copy and paste? paste into Synfig Studio?? ha!
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16:42 < rore> ahaha, so that was my idea, and I didn't even know :D
16:45 < rore> (the fact that the wiki was locked on one side, impossible to modify on the other, didn't help :p )
16:53 < genete> rore: are you joined to synfig-devel mailing list?
16:53 < genete> anyway: https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/ticket/6893
16:55 < genete> why does sourceforge do give a half service? Sendmail is a must have service for a decent host! :(
17:05 < rore> I just "watch" the bugtracker
17:09 < rore> (before was joined to synfig-devel, but most of the messages seemed to be bug-tracker messages too)
17:10 < genete> ok, just wanted you to know the ticket I've opened
17:13 < rore> not sure the sf admins care about the "users", but if they can confirm or deny the lack of feature and give advice, that'll be good
17:14 < genete> they can. I've talked to them in the chat and one of the managers told me the lack of sendmail for "abuses in the past"
17:14 < genete> but I want the official confirmation
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17:27 < genete> I wonder: which is the real synfig user community size?
17:28 < genete> maybe, due to the very down hill we are passing now, it is worth to start over with a wiki/forum etc. from sf hosted applications
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18:19 < prokoudine> is here a problem with hosting?
18:21 < genete> prokoudine: yes there is. https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/ticket/6893
18:21 < prokoudine> so why not to move to smth like OSUOSL?
18:23 < genete> Hmm why wasn't OSUOSL here ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_software_hosting_facilities
18:24 < genete> I wasn't aware of OSUOSL existence
18:32 < prokoudine> Open Font Library uses it
18:38 < genete> prokoudine: I'm reading their hosting conditions
18:38 < genete> We typically try not to provide hosting for smaller projects which could be hosted at other “free” hosting sites such as SourceForge or Google Code. We do not have the infrastructure setup to provide hosting to thousands of smaller projects, but would prefer to focus our efforts on hosting those projects that have grown too large to fit in at SourceForge but cannot (yet) afford to pay for hosting at a hosting company.
18:39 < prokoudine> ah
18:39 < prokoudine> well :)
18:40 < genete> We decide on hosting requests by looking at many factors. One of the main thing we look for in a project/site is that it shows a current or potential significant positive impact to the Open Source Community. This is, of course, highly subjective, but we will do our best to look at all incoming hosting requests on an individual basis to decide if we think this condition is met. For development-based projects we also feel that it is
18:40 < genete> we don't loose anything asking :)
18:41 < prokoudine> then try it :)
18:41  * genete continue reading ...
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18:55 < genete> wow, the projects hosted at OSUOSL are the big ones in this league! debian, fedora, gentoo, apache, ...
18:59 < genete> Openoffice, Mozilla...
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23:42 < ChemBro> hi guys
23:43 < ChemBro> i have problems with reading the tutorials
23:43 < ChemBro> i think, your wiki is bugged
23:45 < ChemBro> http://www.synfig.org/Slideshow_Tutorial for example says: Fatal error: Out of memory (allocated 262144) (tried to allocate 19456 bytes) in /srv/synfig.org/wiki/mediawiki-1.10.2/includes/SiteConfiguration.php on line 40
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23:47 < genete> hi ChemBro
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23:48 < ChemBro> hi
23:48 < ChemBro> is this a known problem?
23:48 < genete> ChemBro: we are aware of that. For that reason we have migrated to other server: http://synfig.sourceforge.net/wiki
23:49 < genete> you can see same pages there
23:49 < genete> we are in the proccess of re-order them all in a better structure
23:49 < genete> forums and wiki are migrated as well
23:49 < genete> an lately are having problems of user acount creation
23:50 < genete> but in synfig.org server the situation was impossible to maintain
23:50 < ChemBro> okay, good to know
23:51 < ChemBro> one short question: how do I combine 2 pictures, so that synfig thinks, these 2 pictures are one, but in an other "state", or where can I read about it?
23:52 < genete> please explain more the <<synfig thinks, these 2 pictures are one, but in an other "state">>
23:54 < ChemBro> I have 6 pictures, which are basically 6 frames, like a door animation
23:54 < ChemBro> and I want to combine them
23:55 < ChemBro> because I need 250 frames out of this 6 pictures
23:55 < genete> but those frames are raster images?
23:55 < genete> the six ones
23:56 < ChemBro> I don't know, what raster images are, they are pngs
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23:59 < genete1> sorry, got a connection glitch
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