--- Log opened Sat May 23 00:00:56 2009
00:00 < pixelgeek> Sorry, rore followed my thinking - I was suggesting a feature request for synfig, not an option for you yet.
00:02 < Yoyobuae> i think i know how, let me try it first
00:02 < flotho> yo yo bu a eeeeeeeee
00:03 < flotho> kind of "finding nemo"
00:03 < flotho> ;-)
00:04 < rore> urgh... synfigstudio seems rather broken here. I wonder what happened to it. (half drawn tangents, stuff that are linked and behave weirdly)
00:05 < flotho> ok
00:05 < flotho> i'm the bug of synfig
00:05 < flotho> every new soft I tried
00:06 < flotho> my simple questions always
00:06 < rore> bug finder* ;) ... because if you're the bug, you better beware :) 
00:06 < flotho> leads us to a big issue
00:06 < flotho> bug finder, it's better
00:06 < flotho> you're right
00:06 < rore> well, that one is a known issue, but I was sure there was a solution somewhere. I just can't find where, grrr 
00:07 < flotho> no problem
00:08 < flotho> as i know it i will restart my next project by beginning by the blines
00:09 < flotho> well
00:09 < flotho> thank you all the community
00:09 < Yoyobuae> flotho: 
00:10 < flotho> yoyobuae seems to be stuck in finding a solution
00:10 < flotho> no he's here
00:10 < Yoyobuae> can you modify the Blines to touch the origin of the photo?
00:10 < flotho> Yes
00:10 < flotho> i did it
00:10 < flotho> but when i linked them together
00:11 < Yoyobuae> you can use the "Link to Bline" feature
00:11 < flotho> i did it
00:11 < flotho> i have no problem with linking and stuff like that
00:12 < flotho> my problem is that i want that the first object still immobile
00:12 < Yoyobuae> using the right mouse button on the dashed line of the curve (not on the colored dots)
00:12 < flotho> sorry
00:12 < flotho> in better english
00:12 < flotho> I want to let the first object at his place 
00:13 < Yoyobuae> yes i know
00:13 < flotho> I did all this stuff
00:14 < flotho> I tried with simple forms and blines
00:14 < flotho> unsuccessfull
00:14 < Yoyobuae> if the bline touches the first object's origin dot (green dot ) then you could link to bline at that spot
00:14 < flotho> Ok i see what you mean
00:14 < flotho> let me try a second
00:15 < Yoyobuae> you can zoom in to see the bline and right click on it easier
00:16 < rore> if the two are not perfectly aligned, that will still make the 1st object move a little :/
00:16 < Yoyobuae> but just a little =)
00:19 < rore> I tried some weird stuff. Convert the dot that we don't want to move to Add, then export the "RHS" value, in the properties. Then link that RHS value to whatever you want. 
00:20 < Yoyobuae> yeah, that would work also
00:21 < rore> but that's annoying to do, and well, i'm not sure it will allow to do the "follow bline" afterwards
00:22 < Yoyobuae> if RHS is linked to Bline, yes
00:23 < Yoyobuae> but its more steps to get the right Bline linked in
00:23 < flotho> ouou
00:23 < flotho> too much technical stuff for a french newbie
00:23 < flotho> what is a RHS export
00:25 < flotho> I tried what you proposed with a duck touchnig the blines
00:25 < flotho> but it's not reallys concluant
00:25 < flotho> realy efficient i mean
00:25 < flotho> enven if it's better thant the best i had already obtained
00:26 < rore> the "convert" things may be a bit difficult to understand at 1st, yes
00:26 < Yoyobuae> it is done on the Paremeter Panel instead (http://synfig.org/Parameters_Panel)
00:28 < rore> flotho: well, in synfig, every value can be converted to some "operation", for example you can convert a point coordinates (x,y) to some  "addition" operation. Then the coordinates of that points will be (x,y) + (0,0)
00:28 < rore> both parts of the additions are called "LHS" and "RHS" (left hand side, right hand side)
00:29 < flotho> wow 
00:29 < flotho> Ok ok ok
00:29 < rore> if you export the RHS (0,0); then you can link it to something else, and it will add an offset to the original position of the 1st point
00:29 < flotho> what i propose
00:30 < flotho> i will let my brain refreshing
00:30 < flotho> I strat the translation and when i arrive to this high level
00:30 < flotho> i will ask you plenty of question
00:30 < flotho> so in conclusion
00:31 < flotho> 1 bug
00:31 < flotho> 1 new translater
00:31 < flotho> 1 new bug tracker
00:31 < Yoyobuae> flotho: or you could do Blines first, next time =)
00:31 < flotho> 1 new head without hairs anymore
00:31 < rore> ahahah :)
00:31 < flotho> :D
00:31 < flotho> thank you
00:31 < flotho> thank you thank you for all
00:32 < flotho> chat you soon
00:32 < rore> yeah, same here, almost no head - and no ears (listening to techno-metal thing too loud to keep me awake ^^)
00:32 < pixelgeek> Whatchya listening to?
00:32 < pixelgeek> Skinny Puppy?
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00:33 < rore> err... "Pain" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_(musical_project) 
00:33 < pixelgeek> (Skinny Puppy's the loudest most obnoxious techno metal I've heard of)
00:33 < rore> not sure if Pain is techno-metal, I just call it that way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP_pH6CBZYg for example
00:37 < pixelgeek> Catchy - sounds a bit more Europop/rock
00:38 < pixelgeek> to me..
00:39 < rore> true
00:41 < pixelgeek> I had a friend who liked Skinny Puppy - he played us some, and we walked out of his room shaking our heads....
00:42 < rore> hehehe
00:44 < rore> trying the 1st youtube result for skinny puppy, well, that sounds even more like techno-rock to me :) 
00:44 < pixelgeek> I found their myspace page, and the first one it played was a lot more mellow than I remember.
00:45 < rore> maybe it's the loudness that it important ;)
00:46 < pixelgeek> If you like 'different' music you should check out http://magnatune.com/
00:47 < pixelgeek> They have some good metal, electronic, ambient, classic, new age....
00:50  * rore uses dogmazic.net and jamendo.com too :)
00:51 < rore> (and amazon XD )
00:57 < pixelgeek> Well, it's the Friday before a 3 day weekend.  
00:58 < pixelgeek> Most people have already cleared out.  
00:59  * rore will "clear out" to her bed (if that makes sense)
00:59 < pixelgeek> have a good night!
00:59 < pixelgeek> sweet dreams
01:00 < rore> Hyv?? y?t?! (that chan lacked a bit of finnish :])
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09:14 < rore> 'morning chan!
09:50 < Zelgadis> Good morning, rore.
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17:50 < CIA-75> MorevnaProject: Konstantin Dmitriev master * r09a6172840a2 production/lib/camera-view.sif: Standart settings for camera view.
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18:44 < CIA-75> MorevnaProject: Konstantin Dmitriev master * rbb662360a5c9 demo/ (7 files in 2 dirs): 06: Keyframes with shading are integrated into draft. Shot is ready for tracing.
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