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02:17  * pixelgeek going home
02:19 < genete> don't miss this one pixelgeek :) http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=qNOPR_1UAz0
02:19 < genete> good night :)
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05:44 < pixelgeek> bedtime
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06:38 < akagogo> is someone wake up?
06:45 < akagogo> well I'm going to sleep. here there are some advances http://none.carlos.googlepages.com/svgimport.mpeg
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06:48 < pabs3> akagogo: awesome
06:49 < pabs3> I think merge bones and SVG import then we should make a new release
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07:29 < AkhIL> but sound is awful
07:37 < pabs3> no-one is working on sound though
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10:30 < genete> wow, akagogo's svg import is impressive. I wonder how much svg effects can be imported. And what about sif to svg?
10:30 < genete> G'morning by the way :)
10:30 < genete> or better Greetings from Spain :D
10:33 < pabs3> hey genete 
10:33 < genete> hey
10:35 < genete> have we decided something about numbering scheme? 0.61.10? what about 0.7.0 for the next release?
10:36 < genete> and definitively continue with 0.7.1, 0.7.2 ... and 0.8.0 once there were a big change 
10:57 < rore> 0.8.0 for the gradient blur ;D
10:57 < rore> (and hi everyone)
11:03 < genete> rore: :-P
11:03 < rore> O:-)
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13:56 < prokoudine> hi
13:56 < prokoudine> already planning next release or what? :)
14:08 < pabs3> so far releases have been around every 6 months. I figure SVG & bones are awesome features that will prob take a couple of months to stabilise, giving enough time to release them on "schedule"
14:11 < AkhIL> perhaps even chromakey 8)
14:19  * prokoudine envisions more translation work :)
14:25 < genete> AkhIL: chromakey would be awesome too. Is it stable yet? any patch?
14:50 < AkhIL> it is stable but not all features is done
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15:14 < Zelgadis> genete: releasing 0.7.0 after 0.61.x is not a good idea, 'cause 7 < 61. Most distros/packagers will have problem with that.
15:15 < Zelgadis> good time of the day to all ^_^
15:22 < rore> hm, right, maybe 0.70 ? Or that'll sound strange ? 
15:22 < rore> And good .... evening (? ) Zelgadis (I'm trying to guess what part of the day you're in)
15:22 < pabs3> or .62
15:24  * rore still think bones deserve some special number. (But I never released anything with a number greater than "x.2" so I'm not good at that :) )
15:24 < pixelbot> Mmmm... Tasty
15:24 < rore> pixelgeek: is this one of your mysterious random trigger for pixelbot? :) 
15:25 < Zelgadis> rore: evening - you got it right ^_^
15:25 < Zelgadis> pabs3: I second that
15:26 < rore> I minute that
15:26 < rore> (oops, sorry, I love bad puns)
15:33 < genete> I have no idea that the versioning were compared in that way. 
15:33 < genete> but at this rate we'll have a 1.00.00 version more or less at 2030 or so
15:33 < Zelgadis> genete: Do we need to hurry?
15:34 < genete> no
15:34 < genete> maybe we can use 0.61.10 and then 0.61.11 and so on.
15:34 < genete> I just want a consistent numbering scheme
15:35 < Zelgadis> genete: Did you saw my thoughts on version numbering in the logs? (about a week ago)
15:35 < pabs3> whee http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/rogue-ca/
15:35 < genete> Zelgadis: maybe, I don't remember
15:36 < Zelgadis> genete: first number - is maturity. I.e. synfig-1.0.0 is mature release.
15:36 < pabs3> Perhaps we should ask darco about the current version scheme?
15:36 < Zelgadis> genete: second number - new feature. (I.e. bones)
15:36 < Zelgadis> genete: third number - bugfix.
15:37 < genete> pabs3, good idea.
15:37 < genete> Zelgadis: 
15:37 < genete> that sounds reasonable
15:37 < genete> but two digits for a new feature added?
15:37 < Zelgadis> genete: I suppose it's a precents ^___^
15:38 < Zelgadis> *percents
15:38 < genete> btw, have you seen the bones demo?
15:38 < Zelgadis> genete: Yes! It's great!
15:39 < genete> I've squeezed my brain to make the tangents work well and I think they are now fixed
15:39 < genete> it is not obvious
15:40 < Zelgadis> genete: That's cool you did it on your own. ^___^
15:40 < genete> yeah! I have the best mentor :)
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15:42 < genete> the coding has not been so difficult but the way to rotate the tangents was a complex math issue
15:42 < genete> akagogo: just in time! :)
15:42 < akagogo> hi
15:42 < genete> akagogo: patch, patch ;)
15:42 < pabs3> hi akagogo 
15:42 < pabs3> akagogo: svg importer looks great
15:42 < Zelgadis> o/
15:43 < akagogo> yes but i have some problems
15:44 < akagogo> there are some memory leaks
15:46 < genete> after load the svg? or after close synfigstudio?
15:48 < akagogo> after load the svg
15:49 < akagogo> also i cant import more than one svg file :(
15:51 < akagogo> synfig say me "invalid id" when im trying to add the canvas
15:51 < genete> once you create the synfig objects reading the svg file, do you assign them to the root canvas or to a particular canvas? by the demo video you create a new canvas for the imported svg file.
15:53 < genete> I'm sure that dooglus can solve that issue. He has more knowledge on canvases now. 
15:55 < akagogo> yes :), while i will be trying to fix my bugs.
15:55 < genete> does it saves to svg too?
15:56 < akagogo> other problem is when the svg file is so big
15:57 < akagogo> i think that i should show a onemoment instance
16:11 < dooglus> hi
16:12 < dooglus> what's the problem?
16:14 < genete> hi dooglus 
16:15 < dooglus> hi genete
16:15 < genete> hi welcome back :)
16:15 < dooglus> thanks
16:15 < Zelgadis> Ahoj, dooglus! ^_^
16:19 < dooglus> nazdar!
16:20 < akagogo> i get this message "glibmm-ERROR **: unhandled exception (type std::exception) in signal handler:
16:20 < akagogo> what: Invalid ID"
16:21 < akagogo> when i try to import a second time
16:21 < dooglus> akagogo: put a breakpoint on the two 'throw runtime_error("Invalid ID");' lines in canvas.cpp
16:22 < dooglus> akagogo: it sounds like you're using the same ID each time though
16:22 < dooglus> (ID == canvas' exported name)
16:23 < akagogo> ummm ID refers to canvas->get_id?
16:24 < dooglus> yes
16:24 < dooglus> are you calling Canvas::add_child_canvas(Canvas::Handle child_canvas, const synfig::String& id) ?
16:25 < akagogo> yes
16:26 < akagogo> it was the most easy for me :)
16:27 < akagogo> but i dont use exceptions xD
16:29 < dooglus> the exception is raised by add_child_canvas if it doesn't like the 'id' you pass it
16:30 < akagogo> umm ok
16:32 < dooglus> I don't know if you need add_child_canvas - a child canvas is one that appears in the Child panel - ie. an exported canvas
16:34 < genete> what about simply a inline canvas?
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18:39 < Zelgadis> Morning, pixelbot  ^_^
18:39 < Zelgadis> ooops
18:39 < Zelgadis> Morning, pixelgeek ^__^
18:39 < pixelgeek> Morning Zelbot!
18:40 < Zelgadis> Agrhhh! #___#
18:40 < pixelgeek> ;)
18:40 < Zelgadis> ^___^
18:40 < Zelgadis> ^.^'''
18:41 < pixelgeek> A lot of logs while I was sleeping.... 
18:42 < pixelgeek> genete: Is your youtube link the same as the Ogg you posted the other day?  
18:42 < pixelgeek> rore: http://www.skytopia.com/project/illusion/ambig.gif
18:43 < pabs3> nice
18:49 < pixelgeek> (not mine - just though rore would appreciate the ambiguity ;) )
18:51 < pixelgeek> huh - can't play akagogo's mpeg file at work.  
18:51 < pixelgeek> Have to check it out at home.  :(
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20:57 < dooglus> I found an ambigram generator: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/rore.png
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21:48 < rore> dooglus: hehe, nice - but that's cheating ! :D
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22:08 < vince38> hello synfig ppl :)
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22:36 < pixelgeek> Hi vince38 
22:37 < pixelgeek> see you later!
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23:59 < genete> night
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