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00:00 < genete> Well, it is not 3D but finally I have a flip flap wing...
00:06 < AkhIL> where I can find layer compositing mode indexes?
00:07 < AkhIL> which represent modes in sif file
00:07 < genete> http://synfig.org/Blend_Method_Parameter
00:08 < genete> is that?
00:08 < dooglus> genete: he means the numbers in the .sif file
00:08 < AkhIL> yes, numbers
00:08 < dooglus> AkhIL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n23xOvONb8
00:08 < Yoyobuae> well, convert blend method to reference works well
00:10  * AkhIL get it in synfig-core/src/synfig/color.h
00:10 < AkhIL> got*
00:11 < dooglus> AkhIL: or http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/blend_method_numbers.txt
00:12 < genete> bed time here.... 
00:12 < dooglus> night genete
00:12 < genete> night 
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00:12 < AkhIL> dooglus:  thanks
00:18 < factor> Back later
00:18 < dooglus> AkhIL: I copied it to the wiki: http://synfig.org/Source:BlendMethods
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00:57  * AkhIL mostly done gimp->synfig exporter
00:57 < AkhIL> should I put it to synfig wiki?
01:02 < CIA-39> synfig: dooglus * r1528 /synfig-core/trunk/src/modules/lyr_std/ (timeloop.cpp timeloop.h): (log message trimmed)
01:02 < CIA-39> synfig: Fix 1883030: Version 0.1 of the timeloop layer acted as if it wasn't there
01:02 < CIA-39> synfig: whenever its start_time wasn't strictly less than its end_time, whereas the
01:02 < CIA-39> synfig: current version works with both positive and negative values for 'duration'.
01:02 < CIA-39> synfig: This was causing problems with old .sif files which use animated valuenodes for
01:02 < CIA-39> synfig: start_time and/or end_time, since we couldn't easily convert them to produce the
01:02 < CIA-39> synfig: same results with the new layer type. This commit adds a new parameter to the
01:03 < AkhIL> I have some unsuported blend methods form gimp 
01:04 < AkhIL> GRAIN_MERGE_MODE GRAIN_EXTRACT_MODE SOFTLIGHT_MODE HARDLIGHT_MODE BURN_MODE DODGE_MODE
01:09 < dooglus> what do they do?
01:09 < dooglus> hardlight looks like synfig's blend#17
01:10 < AkhIL> yes thenks
01:11 < AkhIL> thanks*
01:15 < AkhIL> http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-concepts-layer-modes.html - gimp's layer modes
01:16 < dooglus> you didn't mention 'disolve'?
01:17 < AkhIL> I'm not using it
01:17 < AkhIL> http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gimp2synfig002dd5.jpg - not exacetly as in gimp but nice
01:18 < AkhIL> ah,,, I forgot turn off hiden layers
01:24 < dooglus> you are using those other modes?
01:25 < AkhIL> yes. especialy grain merge/extract, dudge and burn
01:25 < AkhIL> but this is for photo compositing
01:25 < AkhIL> i'm not think it will be very critical to have same in synfig
01:31 < dooglus> gimp has 21 modes, synfig has 22
01:31 < AkhIL> aha... with gamma 0.5 all looks exacetly like in gimp 
01:31 < dooglus> screenshot?
01:32 < AkhIL> sure. wait a minute
01:35 < AkhIL> http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gimp2synfig003yn6.jpg - this is without gamma correction but with disabled invisible layers
01:36 < AkhIL> http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gimp2synfig003withgammafd6.jpg - and this is with gamma 0.5
01:37 < AkhIL> he-he... now I can animate my gimp compositions 8)
01:39 < AkhIL> i should clean-up code of plug-in. Then I'll share it
01:45 < AkhIL> btw. Is it possible to add Zoom setting to canvas like in preview
01:45 < AkhIL> to render only N-th pixel
01:45 < AkhIL> ?
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01:50 < dooglus> while working?  or rendering?
01:50 < AkhIL> working
01:50 < dooglus> all I've seen is the caret>view>low res" toggle
01:52 < dooglus> did you see I'd fixed the "bitmap + straight onto" bug?
01:53 < AkhIL> yes
01:53 < AkhIL> thanks
01:55 < dooglus> the code is pretty nasty already from just being able to render in 'high' and 'low' resolution:
01:55 < dooglus> int width_in_tiles(w/tile_w+((low_resolution?((w/2)%(tile_w/2)):(w%tile_w))?1:0));
01:56 < dooglus> I don't fancy changing it to work with arbitrary resolutions :)
01:56 < AkhIL> ok... I can zoom out. and get a glass 8)
01:57 < dooglus> compiz will zoom in for you?
01:57 < AkhIL> http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/571/gimp2synfig004un1.jpg - ha-ha It works!
01:58 < AkhIL> dooglus: I can hack this stfing and ptu w/4 
01:58 < AkhIL> put*
01:59 < dooglus> I don't understand
01:59 < dooglus> str?  w/4?
01:59 < AkhIL> i can just fix in my synfig and make
01:59 < AkhIL> int width_in_tiles(w/tile_w+((low_resolution?((w/4)%(tile_w/4)):(w%tile_w))?1:0));
02:00 < dooglus> aah, yes, but there's lots of places with code like that - that was just an example
02:00 < AkhIL> grep low_resolution * )
02:01 < dooglus> only 4 files: renderer_canvas.cpp workarea.cpp canvasview.cpp workarea.h
02:05 < AkhIL> so it is posible to add one more variable for resolution divider and put it to convas properties...
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02:06 < dooglus> I think it needs to be a power of 2
02:14 < dooglus> AkhIL: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/very-low-res.png
02:17 < AkhIL> how you did it?
02:21 < dooglus> AkhIL: changed all the 2's to 8's, like you suggested...
02:23 < AkhIL> 8)
02:23 < dooglus> tried it with 7 (lots of blank lines) and 15 (skewed tiles)
02:24 < dooglus> I think the pixel size has to divide the tile size (128x128)
02:24 < dooglus> if I changed the tile size to 120, that is divisible by lots of things
02:24 < AkhIL> I think this value should be in File->Options 
02:25 < AkhIL> like n**2
02:25 < dooglus> with 120, we can have pixels of size 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10
02:27 < AkhIL> hmm... it is lot easer... it maight be just one more submenu in view menu
02:27 < AkhIL> i think even I can code this
02:27 < dooglus> want my patch for which 2's to change?
02:28 < dooglus> I was stuck on this weird line: if(w*h>(low_resolution?480*270:480*270/2)
02:28 < dooglus> it's deciding whether there's enough work to do to use tiles instead of rendering it all at once
02:28 < dooglus> surely that last 2 should be a 4?
02:29 < AkhIL> it depends from situation
02:29 < AkhIL> I think for vector drawing 2 will be better
02:30 < AkhIL> but for compositing multiple layers speed better then quality
02:30 < dooglus> I mean, there's a certain number of calculations we think we can bear to do in one step without updating the screen
02:31 < dooglus> if low_resolution is on, we are only calculating 1/4 of the number of pixels for the same area
02:31 < dooglus> (1/2 across * 1/2 down)
02:39 < dooglus> the transparent background (checkboard effect) looks odd if the pixels are too big
02:39 < AkhIL> 8)
02:41 < dooglus> http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/lower-res.png
02:41 < dooglus> are you going to make the change to the source?
02:44 < AkhIL> i'll try
02:45 < AkhIL> but latter 
02:45 < AkhIL> i intent to add submenu like Preview Quality
02:46 < AkhIL> but for resolution
02:46 < dooglus> I was thinking keep the toggle as it is
02:46 < dooglus> because it's useful to be able to toggle quickly on/off
02:46 < dooglus> and add a tab to the file>options to set the pixel size
02:47 < dooglus> I find the preview quality menu annoying - it's 2 or 3 levels down, just to set a single digit parameter
02:47 < dooglus> keys for 'better' and 'worse' would be better
02:47 < dooglus> same for pixel size maybe
02:48 < dooglus> I'll take a look at doing it
02:48 < AkhIL> I mean you select pixels of size 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10 and then uses ctrl+` to toggle it
02:49 < dooglus> ok
02:49 < dooglus> maybe I want bigger pixels
02:49 < dooglus> 12, 15, 24, etc
03:13 < AkhIL> http://akhil.nm.ru/tools/pygimp/synfigexport.py - you may try it
03:14 < AkhIL> to install you should but this python script to ~/.gimp-*/plug-ins/ directory
03:14 < AkhIL> then open some image with layers and got to <image>/File/Export/Synfig
03:23 < dooglus> it's my bedtime
03:23 < dooglus> I'll look tomorrow though
03:24 < AkhIL> ok
03:24 < AkhIL> night
03:25 < AkhIL> sweet dreams 8)
03:26 < dooglus> (where's 'export'?)
03:28 < dooglus> in GIMP 2.4.2, from the image, the 'file' menu has no 'export' that I can see
03:35 < AkhIL> script adds this menu entry
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04:01 < pxegeek> Evening all!
04:01 < pabs3> yo pxegeek 
04:02 < pxegeek> Hey pabs - You ready to post the February challenge?
04:02 < pabs3> nope
04:02 < pxegeek> Did you have any theme in mind or just 'generic splash screen'
04:06 < pabs3> well, my idea was for synfig to be like the gimp/inkscape - a new splash screen for every release
04:07 < pabs3> I've rewritten an about dialog that is like the gimp 2.4 one, haven't integrated it into synfig yet or moved the current code from aboutdialog to splashscreen
04:25  * pabs3 writing blog entry about the jan challenge now
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05:39 < pabs3> whew, jan challenge stuff done
05:42 < pabs3> pxegeek: any thoughts on the splash screen?
05:43 < pxegeek> I was just curious if you had a theme to start people thinking...
05:43 < pabs3> I'm thinking it should be a still image, just in case the code isn't ready for an animated one, and also cus studio doesn't start that slowly
05:43 < pabs3> nope
05:43 < pxegeek> Yes - still 
05:43 < pxegeek> What size?
05:43 < pabs3> I thought I'd let the animators imaginations flourish
05:43 < pabs3> hmm
05:43 < pxegeek> Do you want text on the screen or blank space where you can add it later?
05:44 < pabs3> All the current text will go into the about dialog
05:45 < pabs3> it should probably include the words "synfig studio" and maybe include the logo or remind folks of the logo
05:51 < pabs3> dooglus: any thoughts? rore ?
06:02 < pxegeek> I'm assuming it all has to be created in synfig - no external file dependencies
06:03 < pabs3> yeah, I recon so
06:07 < pxegeek> Holy C$%#!  300+BLines?  
06:07 < pxegeek> It looks great zoomed in - maybe we should use that for the splash screen!
06:09 < pxegeek> It made me chuckle too!
06:14 < pabs3> :)
06:14 < pabs3> I used the draw tool and turned off most of the checkboxes
06:24 < pabs3> ok, gonna post this feb challenge
06:31 < AkhIL> how to calculate 2^n in c++?
06:31 < pabs3> pxegeek: any changes to http://pastebin.ca/885870 ?
06:33 < pabs3> AkhIL: use pow() for floats or left shift (<<) for ints 
06:34 < pabs3> pow/powf/powl I mean
06:34 < AkhIL> pow(2,n) right?
06:34 < pabs3> ya
06:35 < pabs3> well, pow(2.0,n) but yeah
06:35 < AkhIL> for ints a = 2 << n; ?
06:35  * pxegeek still thinking size matters - how long have I been using vector graphics now?
06:35 < pabs3> I think a = 1 << n; because it is a bitwise operation
06:36 < pabs3> :)
06:36 < AkhIL> ok
06:36 < AkhIL> thanks
06:36 < pxegeek> pabs - I think you have the basics covered
06:36 < pxegeek> I'm sure there will be clarifying questions as we go through the month
06:37 < pabs3> gimp one is 300x400
06:37 < pabs3> aye
06:39 < pabs3> added a mention about trying to keep it close to the gimp one
06:41 < pabs3> posted: http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=159
06:46 < AkhIL> pabs3: may be you repost this thing to synfig wiki? My enlish not so clean to do it right
06:46 < AkhIL> http://www.translate.ru/url/tran_url.asp?lang=ru&url=http%3A%2F%2Fakhil.nm.ru%2Fru_blog.htm&direction=re&template=General&cp1=NO&cp2=NO&autotranslate=on&transliterate=on&psubmit2.x=54&psubmit2.y=17 (first post)
06:47 < pabs3> I'll have a look in a bit, writing an email
07:01 < pxegeek> To simplify the work of animating a cartoon about a mouse, a plug-in for the raster editor GIMP has been written, to allow the direct exporting of multi-layered images to corresponding (layers?) of the 2D animation package Synfig.  
07:03 < pxegeek> The plug-in registers(Records) itself in the GIMP image menu <image>-> File-> Export-> Synfig
07:04 < pxegeek> There are export options you can choose. If the field " output path " is empty, the synfig canvas will be kept in the same directory as the initial GIMP document. 
07:04 < pxegeek> Here is the result:
07:06 < pxegeek> On the left you can see the initial image in Gimp, and on the right the same image imported into Synfig.  
07:06 < AkhIL> I just think this thing should be on synfig's wiki... 
07:07 < pxegeek> After adding a scale layer, the images cannot be distinguished.  
07:07  * pxegeek nods
07:07  * pabs3 adding a "Converters" page 
07:07 < pxegeek> I was going to go to bed, but I'm on a roll
07:07 < AkhIL> ok
07:08 < pxegeek> Click here to download the plugin
07:11 < pxegeek> For it to work, GIMP must support Python, and the most recent version of Python must be fully installed. 
07:12 < pxegeek> This program is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License
07:12 < pxegeek> Distribution and updating of the code is welcomed.  
07:13 < pxegeek> I think that's readable now, but you might want to check I didn't alter the meaning.  
07:14 < pxegeek> I think you meant layers instead of canvases??  Or are you importing each image to its own sub-canvas?  
07:14 < pxegeek> Definitely bedtime now.  Catch y'all in the logs...
07:14 < factor> see ya
07:14 < AkhIL> night
07:15 < factor> I keep falling a sleep when I get home
07:15 < factor> messes up my day
07:15 < pabs3> nite pxegeek 
07:16 < pxegeek> Zzzzzzzzzzz..........
07:16 < AkhIL> pabs3: where is converters page?
07:17 < pabs3> http://synfig.org/Converters
07:17 < pabs3> http://synfig.org/Gimp2synfig
07:18 < AkhIL> oh.. thanks!
07:18 < pabs3> pxegeek: weren't you doing some stuff with autotrace? be good to add that to converters
07:19 < pabs3> hope I didn't miss anythong
07:19 < pabs3> er, anything
07:19 < pxegeek> Yes.  It's not pretty, or even particularly advanced, but I'm sure dooglus could whip it into shape in an afternoon.
07:19 < factor> heh
07:19 < pabs3> :)
07:19 < pxegeek> (I think your freudian slip is showing)
07:19 < factor> where is that one at
07:20 < pabs3> factor: in the forums, FOSS one iirc
07:21  * pxegeek nods
07:21 < pxegeek> I haven't posted the code though.
07:21 < factor> oh ok
07:21 < pxegeek> It's  _really_ kudgey
07:22 < pxegeek> kludgey
07:22 < factor> heh I know what cha mean
07:22 < pxegeek> maybe it is kudgey....
07:22 < factor> .x version usualy are anywayz
07:22 < pxegeek> .0x methinks
07:22 < factor> heh
07:23 < factor> kludgeius maximus
07:23 < pabs3> ages ago someone else tried the same thing with potrace IIRC, I should link that too
07:23 < pxegeek> If anyone wants to laugh at it ^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h look at it, I can upload it, but not tonight....
07:24 < pxegeek> l8r
07:24 < factor> k
07:25 < factor> I like the gimp2synfig
07:25 < factor> cool
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07:27 < AkhIL> how I can make diff from my synfig to trunk ?
07:28 < pabs3> AkhIL: svn up and then svn diff
07:28 < AkhIL> thanks
07:28 < AkhIL> ups... segfault
07:30  * AkhIL C noob
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08:14 < AkhIL> hey devs... is someone here?
08:15 < AkhIL> i did this patch http://pastebin.com/m558f66f9
08:16 < AkhIL> it makes posible selecting how low will be resolution in low-res mode
08:32 < pabs3> http://micke.hallendal.net/blog/2008/01/30/happenings-in-gtk/
08:32 < pabs3> Our aim is to have an easily installable framework for Mac OS X finished within the next couple of weeks to make it very easy to setup your Mac OS X machine for cross platform application development with GTK+.
08:33 < pabs3> AkhIL: I'll leave that to dooglus, don't understand synfig internals enough
08:33 < AkhIL> pabs3: he he... me too. 
08:34 < pabs3> :)
08:40 < AkhIL> http://synfig.org/Special:Whatlinkshere/Converters
08:40 < AkhIL> i think wiki should have link to convertors from somewhere
08:41 < pabs3> hmm, perhaps http://synfig.org/Development?
08:41 < pabs3> or maybe Documentation is better
08:52 < AkhIL> http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8982/lowrespixelxx2.jpg - this is how my patch works
09:09 < pabs3> ah, I see
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10:56 < dooglus> pabs3: "licensed under the GPL-2 (with or later option)" the part in parens isn't clear - does it need quotes around 'or later'?  or is it missing some words?
10:57 < pabs3> yeah, needs quotes, will edit
11:17 < dooglus> AkhIL: I saved the script to the plug-ins directory, but it didn't show up as 'export' in the 'file' menu until I made it executable.  that's what I was missing.
11:27 < dooglus> pabs3: maybe it's good to have the version number on the splash screen too?
11:28 < pabs3> gimp doesn't, its fine if people want to include it though
11:29 < pabs3> I don't think we need it there though, the about dialog will include it
11:31 < pabs3> dooglus: http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=165#165
11:32 < rore> eek, I have almost 2months of changes to synfig, the forum, etc. to look at /o\
11:32 < rore> and hello everyone too :)
11:34 < pabs3> hey rore !
11:34  * pabs3 knows the feeling
11:35 < rore> http://www.gimp.org/about/splash/stable.html <-- some time ago, gimp had the version number too on the splash :) 
11:37  * pabs3 adds a comment about the version
11:37 < pabs3> dooglus: I'm assuming it will be 0.61.08?
11:37  * rore likes the unstable version splashes :] http://www.gimp.org/about/splash/images/gimp1_1_splash.1.19.png 
11:40 < pabs3> nice one!
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12:04 < dooglus> pabs3: I guess so - 0.61.08 has a nice ring to it, don't you think?
12:05 < pabs3> :) um, hadn't thought about it
12:10 < pabs3> hmm, I wonder what studio_about.sif was, doesn't seem to be one in svn
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12:18 < dooglus> pabs3: where did you hear about studio_about.sif?
12:19 < pabs3> images/Makefile.inc and studio.kdevprj
12:19 < pabs3> (was searching for references to the about dialog stuff
12:19 < dooglus> oh, I see.  I don't know what it is/was
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12:52 < AkhIL> dooglus: did you saw my patch?
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12:59 < dooglus> AkhIL: yes, I'm looking at it
13:00 < dooglus> AkhIL: it misses a few places where '2's remain
13:00 < dooglus> AkhIL: and it uses a single group for 'quality' and 'resolution' - select a quality and the resolution stops being selected
13:00 < dooglus> AkhIL: but I've fixed them both
13:01 < dooglus> AkhIL: I'm thinking maybe using a tile size of 120 would be better - it allows finer control (1,2,3,4,5,6) of pixel size than (1,2,4,8)
13:01 < AkhIL> will be nice
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14:39 < KiBi> dooglus: kibi.dyndns.org:8083 is back
14:40 < KiBi> dooglus: Sorry for the downtime, looks like my parents did something *really* messy with the cables, and took their time to clean it up.
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15:01 < dooglus> AkhIL: nearly done...
15:02 < dooglus> AkhIL: I'm wanting to add shortcuts to increase and decrease the pixel size by one 'step'
15:02 < dooglus> KiBi: oh, good!  thanks.
15:16 < dooglus> AkhIL: i checked it in - use control-( and control-) to change the size
15:16 < AkhIL> ok
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15:46 < CIA-39> synfig: dooglus * r1529 /synfig-studio/trunk/src/gtkmm/ (6 files): Applied patch from IL'dar AKHmetgaleev aka AkhIL to allow different qualities of low-resolution rendering.
15:46 < AkhIL> wow.. I'm in history 8)
15:47 < pabs3> :D
15:47 < CIA-39> synfig: dooglus * r1529 /synfig-studio/trunk/src/gtkmm/ (6 files): Applied patch from IL'dar AKHmetgaleev aka AkhIL to allow different qualities of low-resolution rendering.
15:47 < CIA-39> synfig: dooglus * r1530 /synfig-studio/trunk/src/gtkmm/workarea.cpp: There are 3 more places in the code where the low-res pixel size needs to be used.
15:47 < CIA-39> synfig: dooglus * r1531 /synfig-studio/trunk/src/gtkmm/workarea.cpp: And another two that are commented at the moment. But it's best to fix those as well in case they're uncommented sometime.
15:47 < CIA-39> synfig: dooglus * r1532 /synfig-studio/trunk/src/gtkmm/ (canvasview.cpp workarea.cpp renderer_canvas.cpp): Tidying.
15:47 < CIA-39> synfig: dooglus * r1533 /synfig-studio/trunk/src/gtkmm/workarea.cpp: Improve the logic for when to use the tile renderer. At lower resolutions we can hold off using it longer.
15:47 < CIA-39> synfig: dooglus * r1534 / (7 files in 2 dirs): Change the tile size from 128 to 120 and allow all the factors of 120 to be used as the pixel size for low-resolution editing.
15:47 < CIA-39> synfig: dooglus * r1535 /synfig-studio/trunk/src/gtkmm/ (canvasview.cpp canvasview.h app.cpp): Create the pixel-size menus dynamically.
15:47 < CIA-39> synfig: dooglus * r1536 /synfig-studio/trunk/src/gtkmm/ (canvasview.cpp canvasview.h app.cpp): Add menu entries and shortcuts to increase and decrease the pixel size : control-'(' and control-')'.
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16:03 < dooglus> AkhIL: I forgot to add you to the contributor list - I'll do that now
16:03 < AkhIL> oh thanks
16:04 < dooglus> AkhIL: it's a good new feature I think.
16:05 < AkhIL> especialy for slow computers
16:05 < AkhIL> or hard scenes
16:08 < Zelgadis> cool... updating...
16:09 < dooglus> AkhIL: I don't think it's necessary to clear the display each time though
16:10 < AkhIL> dooglus: I did this code in copy-paste mode... so...
16:11 < dooglus> right
16:11 < dooglus> notice how toggle-low-res doesn't clear the screen, but set-pixel-size does
16:11 < dooglus> the code looks the same :)
16:12 < AkhIL> I made copy form quality toggle
16:13 < AkhIL> can I make new layar(filter/node) which will have one more input canvas?
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16:13 < genete> hi
16:13 < AkhIL> for example I intent use canvas as mask for filter
16:13 < Zelgadis> hi genete
16:13 < genete> hi Zelgadis 
16:13 < AkhIL> greetings genete
16:13 < genete> pabs: I've posted some news draft: http://synfig.org/News/Draft
16:14 < genete> hi AkhIL :)
16:15 < pabs3> excellent, thanks genete 
16:15 < genete> sore I've  forgotten lots of them, please review
16:15 < genete> sure*
16:15 < Zelgadis> Synfig splash screeen!!!! I participate!!!
16:15 < dooglus> AkhIL: what will it do, sorry?  It sounds like a 'pastecanvas' so far?
16:16 < AkhIL> dooglus: for example I have color correction node which should use some mask (canvas) to control filtering per each pixel
16:17 < AkhIL> just like node with two inputs
16:17 < CIA-39> synfig: dooglus * r1537 /synfig-studio/trunk/src/gtkmm/workarea.cpp: Ensure that the size we draw is a whole number of pixels in each dimension, and prevent zooming out too far from creating canvases so small they contain no pixels at all.
16:17 < CIA-39> synfig: dooglus * r1538 /synfig-studio/trunk/AUTHORS: Add AkhIL to the contributors.
16:18 < AkhIL> CIA-39 likes me today 8)
16:19 < dooglus> AkhIL: it sounds like maybe you just need a new parameter called 'mask canvas' on the colorrcorect layer?
16:20 < AkhIL> so it is possible. Right?
16:20 < dooglus> AkhIL: I don't know how straightforward it would be, but it's possible, yet
16:21 < dooglus> s/yet/yes/
16:21 < AkhIL> ok... I should try it
16:21 < dooglus> AkhIL: lots of filters would benefit from the same thing, right?
16:22 < dooglus> like I can imagine I want to blur part of a layer, not all of it
16:22 < AkhIL> dooglus: yes. Focal blur for example
16:22 < dooglus> how do we do that at the moment?  I guess we clone the layer, blur one of them and mask out the area we want?
16:23 < AkhIL> yes. It is ok for most 2d works. But I intent to use synfig for 3d and video compositing
16:26 < genete> dooglus: did you have a look to my papagayo's patch? :\
16:27 < dooglus> genete: that's my next thing to do :)
16:27 < dooglus> genete: hopefully today.
16:27 < genete> :)
16:28 < Zelgadis> AkhIL: I modified your version of make_synfig script and want to publish it. Can I do it?
16:29 < AkhIL> yes sure
16:37 < dooglus> AkhIL: I see why it's redrawing - it's because I'm changing the canvas size each time to make it a whole number of pixels
16:37 < Zelgadis> dooglus: Why SVN version isn't displayed in about dialog anymore?
16:39 < pabs3> when we got rid of the bootstrap script
16:39 < pabs3> there is a patch to fix that in the tracker
16:39 < Zelgadis> tracker?
16:39 < pabs3> dooglus: I'm not opposed to applying it
16:40 < Zelgadis> I really miss SVN version in about dialog! :)))
16:40 < pabs3> sf.net/projects/synfig -> click tracker/patches
16:41 < AkhIL> dooglus: I just tried patched synfig-studio. Well done!
16:47  * Zelgadis likes it too
16:50 < AkhIL> can someone fix synfig crashing after closing my shot2 scene?
16:56  * pabs3 zzz
16:59 < genete> out
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17:02 < AkhIL> http://akhil.nightmail.ru/hny2008/shot2_v9_src.tar.bz2 - if someone wish to fix synfig's crashing
17:03 < dooglus> AkhIL: I'll take a look later
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17:07 < dooglus> genete: stream.seekg(ios_base::beg); is how you go back to the beginning
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18:17 < CIA-39> synfig: dooglus * r1539 /synfig-studio/trunk/src/gtkmm/workarea.cpp: Partially revert the previous commit. Messing with the canvas size causes the display to be cleared between refreshes.
18:17 < CIA-39> synfig: dooglus * r1540 /synfig-core/trunk/src/synfig/listimporter.cpp: Fix 1879688: Tidied up and checked in a patch from genete to allow importing of lipsynced voice animations from Papagayo.
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18:36 < dooglus> AkhIL: this crashes just like yours, and is tiny - no bitmaps at all: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/crash.sifz
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18:45 < pxegeek> dooglus - not that it's any surprise, but your crash.sifz crashes when closed under Windows too
18:45  * pxegeek off to work
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19:42 < dooglus> AkhIL: did you ever edit that .sif file by hand?  or did you just use studio?
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19:57 < dooglus> AkhIL: this is a version of your .sifz that doesn't crash: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/shot2_v8_fixed.sifz
19:58 < dooglus> AkhIL: I just swapped the order of the 'mouse.hand.L' and 'mouse-all' canvases in the file
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20:17 < dooglus> AkhIL: he's a recipe to get your crash from a clean start: draw 2 circles, encapsulate them both, export one as 'c1' then the other as 'c2', select c1, control-x (cut), open c2, select its circle, control-v (paste), now c1 is inside c2, save to a file, revert, and quit
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20:40 < Yoyobuae> dooglus: by "export one as 'c1'" you meant export the inline canvas, right?
20:41 < Yoyobuae> dooglus: and by "revert" you meant to re-open the saved file, right?
20:41 < Yoyobuae> it did crash here, btw =)
20:44 < dooglus> Yoyobuae: that's what I mean
20:45 < dooglus> Yoyobuae: genete reported a bug about the error messages you see if you *don't* revert before quitting
20:45 < dooglus> Yoyobuae: I'm trying to work out at the moment why reverting makes a difference
20:45 < Yoyobuae> ok =)
20:46 < dooglus> Yoyobuae: I imagine it must be that if you don't revert, something is keeping a reference to the canvases and/or layers and stopping them from being freed too early (or at all)
20:46 < dooglus> I can't think what it would be - I've tried emptying the undo history (because that holds handles to things) but it didn't change anything.
20:46 < dooglus> I guess I want to specialise the handle template for layers to show where handles are being added and lost
20:55 < Yoyobuae> on ETL/_handle.h the class documentation is like: "\class handle _handle.h ETL/handle"
20:55 < Yoyobuae> i read about doxygen a bit, and they recommend not using '\class' if the documentation is right besides the class itself
20:56 < dooglus> ok
20:56 < dooglus> I think the doxygen docs do need to lot of attention
21:04 < dooglus> I'll bbiab
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22:12 < pxegeek> It seems very quiet in openvideo right now...
22:16 < dooglus> yes
22:16 < pxegeek> Ah- it's still Thursday that's why...  
22:17  * pxegeek goes back to sleep for 24 hours
22:17 < dooglus> ha
22:18 < pxegeek> I just discovered mibbit.com.  It's very nice...
22:18 < dooglus> seems to have crashed firefox
22:18 < dooglus> oh, no, it's just slow
22:19 < dooglus> ah, java...
22:19 < pxegeek> yes - I don't have that on my Firefox, so I resorted to IE.
22:20 < pxegeek> We'll see how long it leaves me connected if I'm not actually typing anything....  
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22:27 < genete> hi
22:27 < pxegeek> Hi genete!
22:27 < genete> wow the chat is full! :)
22:28 < genete> hi pxegeek :)
22:32 < genete> dooglus: thanks for commit my patch. I'll look what was tidied
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22:37 < genete> dooglus: it seems that you can change from one format to other in the middle of the lipsync file
22:40 < genete> definitely my programming style is awful... :( 
22:40 < genete> I think you should erase me from that commit :/
22:41 < genete> anyway please add "gif" as supoorted image format :)
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