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--- Day changed Sat Jun 09 2007
00:00 < zotz> ok
00:00 < zotz> I think i always chose dv
00:01 < Cerin> now it renders several frames but only half of them.
00:01 < zotz> try dv and see what happens
00:01 < Cerin> Yeah, the colors in the gif are all messed up, but dv looks ok.
00:01 < Cerin> dv has only half the animation too
00:04 < Cerin> hmm, now it's working...
00:04 < Cerin> I think mplayer is screwing around with me :(
00:05 < zotz> odd
00:06 < zotz> half the animation as in half the length or half of each frame?
00:07 < zotz> http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=zotzbro - I did the three animations there in synfig...
00:07 < Cerin> http://wiki.synfig.com should really be in the topic
00:07 < zotz> would you like me to send you a project file?
00:08 < zotz> not my call
00:09 < Cerin> heh, I saw that animation. pretty cool
00:14 < zotz> so, are things working for you now?
00:14 < Cerin> yeah, I think so. I'm rendering that gears example on Youtube and it's taking forever.
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00:53 < pxegeek> Hey Cerin
00:53 < pxegeek> THere is a limit into how many colours a GIF can display - synfig was designed for high dynamic range, so you may run into some mapping issues
00:54 < pxegeek> I think Dooglus was poking around at that at one point.  
00:54 < pxegeek> maybe http://dooglus.rincevent.net/synfig/gif-target.html is what you're seeing?
00:58 < Cerin> pxegeek: actually, the transparent background was rendered as green, and the black square was shown as yellow
00:59 < Cerin> Is there currently anyway to import svg?
00:59 < pxegeek> Oh, you might waant to check your chroma values - all sorts of strange things happen if they're messed up
01:00 < pxegeek> no way to import SVG, though it's  quickly becoming the #1 requested feature
01:03 < Cerin> Yeah, I'm great with Inkscape, and I'm picking up Synfig's animation system, so it would really be useful if I could leverage my Inkscape skills so I don't have to relearn that interface.
01:03 < pxegeek> Hmmm may be not chroma for transparent to green and black to yellow.  If you can reproduce it, post a sif file
01:03  * pxegeek must install and try inkscape...
01:10 < Cerin> How do you select multiple objects? Dragging a select box with the general tool doesn't do anything?
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02:48 < pxegeek> Cerin - in case you check the IRC logs - The easiest way is to Ctrl-click on them in the layers pane - each object has its own layer.
02:51 < pxegeek> Dragging the select box around the visible vertices of a selected object(s) will highlight the vertices within the box.  
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06:23 < Cerin> Hi
06:23 < Cerin> How do you rotate a composite?
06:27 < Cerin> I'm guessing you can't...
06:30 < Cerin> The only way I see is to manly select *every* object in the composite, then use the rotate tool, but this seems a little extreme
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07:27 < pxegeek> Cerin: You can add a rotate layer that will rotate everything below it
07:27 < pxegeek> Or encapsulate the layers you want to rotate, and add a rotate layer above that
07:28 < Cerin> yeah, that's a problem
07:28  * pxegeek is amused by the number of "Chris's" that are drawn to synfig
07:28  * pxegeek is a Chris too
07:30 < Cerin> What makes you think I'm a Chris?
07:30 < pxegeek> Did you figure out your weird colors?
07:31 < Cerin> No, I just filled in the background with a color so the gif doesn't have to deal with transparency.
07:31 < Cerin> Other than that I didn't have any color issues.
07:32 < Cerin> ah, you're looking at my username :)
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16:47 < igli> hi dooglus you about? was going to try and submit synfig to gentoo-sunrise
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17:55 < dooglus> igli: I am, yes, but my 'net connection is terrible here.  I'll get your messages eventually, but 'live' conversation isn't always possible.
17:55 < igli> ok np thanks :)
17:56 < igli> updated to svn rev 502; ETL installs fine, synfig falls over at configure with ./configure: line 21677: syntax error near unexpected token `<<<'
17:57 < dooglus> is that because of a conflict?
17:57 < igli> wondering if there's any changes i should be aware of in bootstrap; last ver i had was 231
17:57 < igli> not sure, i'll try a src compile outside portage
17:57 < dooglus> what does line 21677 of ./configure look like?
17:58 < pabs3> that definitely looks like a conflict
17:58 < pabs3> do an svn revert on config/configure.ac
17:59 < igli> ah ok bootstrap failure lots of multiply-defined libmod_libavcodec_la_LDFLAGS CXXFLAGS la_LIBADD blah
17:59 < igli> hi pabs3 :)
18:01 < igli> should check for bootstrap failure in ebuild my bad on that; revert configure.ac pabs3?
18:01 < dooglus> "svn revert config/configure.ac"
18:01 < igli> er does that go back to 231 ver?
18:01 < igli> ok
18:01 < pabs3> nope, it removes your local changes 
18:02 < dooglus> that will get you version 502 without your changes
18:02  * pabs3 at debconf
18:02 < dooglus> in the UK?
18:03 < dooglus> ah.  "will take place from Sunday 17 to Saturday 23 June 2007, in Edinburgh, Scotland"
18:05 < pabs3> yar
18:05 < igli> er i had no local changes, i thought, but there were differences in diff -u ?
18:06 < igli> i have a svn export'ed dir which i use to make a tar ball from. i cp'ed the newly-reverted configure.ac over and got same error
18:06 < igli> do i need to do a make distclean or something?
18:07 < pabs3> hmm
18:07 < pabs3> take a look at line 21677 of ./configure then
18:07 < igli> ok
18:08 < igli> er the configure error before was because i didn't check for bootstrap failure
18:08 < igli> src/modules/mod_libavcodec/Makefile.am:17: bad characters in variable name `' is first bootstrap complaint
18:08 < igli> bootstrap: Using autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.61
18:09 < igli> it's during automake actually
18:09 < igli> bootstrap: Using automake (GNU automake) 1.8.5
18:11 < igli> 	with_libavcodec="yes"
18:11 < igli> hmm i had --with-libavcodec in configure call so that shouldn't have been reached
18:12 < igli> there was a bootstrap error anyhow (sorry to go on)
18:12 < pabs3> you want --without-libavcodec
18:12 < igli> ok
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18:13 < igli> um thing is if i check for bootstrap error that'll fail before configure; should i ignore err?
18:13 < pabs3> nope, otherwise you won't have ./configure
18:14 < igli> hmm but it is being generated and it does say bootstrap fail
18:14 < igli> bootstrap: Failure.
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18:15 < igli> http://pastebin.bafserv.com/1224 is bootstrap output; i'll do as you suggest tho
18:24 < igli> http://wiki.synfig.com/Build_instructions trying to get deps right
18:25 < igli> is that saying libtool is optional dep?
18:30  * igli will go ahead with hacked up stuff if it works but feels the ebuild needs work :/
18:32 < pabs3> if you are running ./bootstrap you'll need libtool installed
18:33 < igli> ok cool. there is no libavcodec package in portage btw, dunno what happened to it (listed on dep page)
18:35 < pabs3> ah, its build from the ffmpeg source package
18:37 < igli> ok
18:38 < igli> looking at the bootstrap, it's bailing, although configure is being made. this isn't good is it?
18:40 < igli> it'd be good to get this into sunrise as it's then in official gentoo overlay
18:41 < pabs3> igli: looked at the pastebin, can you pastebin src/modules/mod_libavcodec/Makefile.am
18:41 < igli> sure
18:43 < igli> http://rafb.net/p/uVTzzq84.html
18:43 < igli> ew i see <<< mine :)
18:45 < igli> should i just delete those <<< and >>> lines?
18:46 < igli> hmm guess not if it's a conflict
18:47  * igli wants to just delete the dir right now
18:48 < pabs3> yeah, that is definately a conflict
18:48 < pabs3> delete that file and grab it from svn
18:48 < igli> ok
18:49  * pabs3 ponders how a conflict could get into an svn export
18:50  * igli wonders the same
18:50 < igli> in the svn dir there are several versions for some reason
18:50 < igli> should i do a fresh checkout of the whole thing?
18:51 < igli> sorry not very good with svn yet; if i delete it and run svn update, it'll get pulled yes?
18:51 < pabs3> yeah, I recon so
18:51 < igli> ok i'll delete the dir and do a new c/o
18:52 < pabs3> er, svn update doesn't work with svn export'ed dirs
18:52 < pabs3> only with svn co
18:54 < igli> yeah i ran update in svn dir, then export from outside
18:55 < pabs3> ah
18:55 < igli> cool this one is getting past that
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19:14 < igli> hmm i really should sort out the runtime dependency thing
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19:28 < igli> yeah it didn't like --with-libavcodec, changed to unconditional --without. is that broken then?
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19:52 < pabs3> igli: what is gentoo-sunrise?
19:52 < igli> er it's like the experimental builds; basically user-submitted, dev-QA
19:53 < igli> realised that's the way to get synfig into portage
19:53 < igli> http://gentoo.org/proj/en/sunrise
19:54 < pabs3> ah. I seem to remember some gentoo dev saying he could find a sponsor for getting synfig into portage.
19:54 < pabs3> looking at my irc logs, one sec
19:54 < igli> hehe dunno who that could've been
19:54 < igli> ** media-gfx/synfig-502 installed successfully. : woot!
19:54 < igli> now to try studio
19:55 < igli> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-546828.html <- is why i haven't been doing anything with synfig pabs3 ;)
19:56 < pabs3> whats that do?
19:57 < pabs3> igli: leio is the nick, he said <leio>  You can always have igli have talk to me on IRC if he's interested and we'll figure out what's the best course of action
19:57 < igli> it makes emerge nice to use basically
19:57 < pabs3> ok
19:57 < igli> oh excellent
19:58 < igli> pinged him in #gentoo-desktop
20:00 < pabs3> coolies, sorry it took me so long to tell you about that :/
20:01 < igli> heh np man, i appreciate the help with the ebuild :)
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20:18 < igli> hmm can't get bootstrap for studio to work; checked out whole thing again, it bails out after src/gtkmm/Makefile.am: installing `config/depcomp' // that's the last line before set +x
20:19 < igli> which is a link to /usr/share/automake1.8/depcomp
20:22 < igli> http://pastebin.bafserv.com/1225 meh
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20:26 < pabs3> hmm
20:27 < pabs3> I recon it is due to the missing changelog file, I shouldn't have removed --foreign
20:28 < igli> is that in automake line?
20:30 < igli> lemme try it
20:33 < pabs3> yep
20:34 < igli> cool
20:49 < igli> yeah worked that time (bootstrap) nice one :)
20:50 < igli> leio is going to post to the dev ml about getting a proxy-maintainer so it'll go into portage tree.. yay!
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22:34 < igli> right got it compiled and installed it works fine. i have never been able to get walk.sif to do anything dooglus is that just me?
22:35 < igli> er could someone tell me something i can do to test it? the tutorial linked from the news page gives 404
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