--- Log opened Sat Mar 03 00:00:23 2007
00:07 < dooglus> ok
00:07 < dooglus> the tangents are in an array Vectortangent_[2], which it's not possible to initialise without writing a constructor body (I think)
00:08 < dooglus> the others are all initialised before the body, like :vertex_(Point(0,0)), ...
00:08 < dooglus> so how's this for the constructor body?
00:08 < dooglus> { tangent_[0] = Point(0,0); tangent_[1] = Point(0,0); }
00:08 < dooglus> (blinepoint.h, line 58)
00:09 < darco> well, you could probably initialize it like this:
00:09 < darco> tangent_({Point(0,0),Point(0,0)})
00:09 < darco> I donno if that will work or not
00:09 < darco> might be worth a try
00:09 < dooglus> the compiler won't let me
00:10 < darco> do'h
00:10 < darco> well
00:10 < darco> your version works fine then
00:10 < dooglus> (neither with the folks in #c++)
00:10 < dooglus> he say:
00:10 < dooglus> blinepoint.h:55: error: expected primary-expression before '{' token
00:10 < dooglus> blinepoint.h:58: error: bad array initializer
00:10 < darco> yeah
00:11 < darco> oh well
00:11 < dooglus> that gets rid of a lot of warnings from valgrind
00:15 < dooglus> r261 | dooglus | 2007-03-03 00:15:38 +0100 (Sat, 03 Mar 2007) | 2 lines
00:15 < dooglus> Initialise the tangents when constructing a BLinePoint.
00:16 < darco> good
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01:27 < MrArmadillo> hello!
01:28 < MrArmadillo> I come from the land of blenderheads
01:29 < darco> hello
01:29 < MrArmadillo> hoping synfig will become the open source 2D equivilent
01:29 < darco> I have the same hope
01:29 < darco> have a lot of work to do though
01:30 < MrArmadillo> I was testing v 0.61.05
01:31 < MrArmadillo> i see the potential but the build crashes often unfortunately
01:32 < MrArmadillo> would SVN be more stable?
01:33 < darco> yes
01:33 < darco> much more
01:33 < MrArmadillo> oh good
01:33 < MrArmadillo> I was wondering where the examples came from ;)
01:33 < darco> they came from my old company
01:33 < darco> which is now defunct
01:33 < MrArmadillo> are you robert?
01:34 < darco> Yes
01:34 < MrArmadillo> wow very nice to meet you indeed
01:35 < darco> I unfortunately can't work on Synfig much these days, as I'm being paid to do other things and need to pay rent, etc...
01:35 < darco> but other people seem to have started helping out quite a bit lately
01:35 < darco> which I'm excited about
01:35 < MrArmadillo> i bet it will pick up momentum when a community is built
01:35 < darco> we need a new website, among other things
01:36 < MrArmadillo> as in a server or design?
01:36 < darco> design
01:36 < darco> not very community-oriented at the moment
01:39 < MrArmadillo> the wiki is a good idea
01:39 < darco> I'm about to head out
01:39 < darco> I may be back online later
01:39 < MrArmadillo> nice to meet you
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02:51 < pabs3> hey darco :)
02:51 < darco> howdy
02:51 < pabs3> darco: did you see http://dooglus.rincevent.net/synfig/eggs.html ?
02:52 < darco> I have synfig core building into a framework now on macosx... I just need to get modules working and that will be a huge step
02:52 < darco> yes
02:52 < darco> I talked with dooglus about it
02:52 < pabs3> coolies
02:53 < pabs3> darco: did you see the offer by ChrisVP to do a new website design? (just reading irc logs)
02:54 < darco> I have not
02:55 < darco> was that today?
02:56 < pabs3> nah, a while back, I'll chase up links
02:57 < pabs3> http://jabber.deepdarc.com/logs.php/%23synfig%40freenode.irc.deepdarc.com/20070221
02:57 < darco> ah
02:57 < darco> lvpmedia
02:57 < darco> http://lvpmedia.com/
02:58 < pabs3> yep
02:58 < pabs3> I thought he posted to the list too, but that was just about tango icons
02:59 < darco> neato
03:01 < darco> Sounds wonderful
03:03 < pabs3> indeedly
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07:19 < pxegeek> Greetings
07:19 < pxegeek> Long time lurker, first time poster...
07:19 < pabs3> hullo :)
07:19 < pxegeek> Actually, first time using IRC at all, so be gentle!  
07:19 < pxegeek> hi - how's the weather in Oz today?
07:20 < pabs3> getting warm in these parts :(
07:20 < pxegeek> Well winter's only just around the corner, right?
07:21 < pxegeek> So, I just subscribed to the devel list
07:21 < pxegeek> but I'm more of a user than a programmer
07:21 < pxegeek> (Win32)
07:27 < pabs3> well, getting closer, slooooooowwwwwllllly :)
07:27 < pabs3> cool
07:27 < pabs3> have you tried the unofficial SVN  Win32 build?
07:28 < pxegeek> I'm currently using the version Atrus posted on darco's blog
07:30 < pabs3> he's made a newer one than that: http://atrus.mmaa.ru/synfig/
07:30 < pxegeek> (Mine's the first comment at http://www.deepdarc.com/2006/12/06/synfig-future/#comments )
07:31 < pxegeek> Looks like I'm running from 228 - what are we up to now?
07:32 < pabs3> 261 in SVN, 240 in Atrus' build
07:32 < pxegeek> Time to upgrade then!
07:32 < pxegeek> Here's a question - you may have seen this?
07:33 < pxegeek> If I start with the defaults and create a picture without a timframe, then later decide to animate it...
07:34 < pxegeek> I should be able to go into Edit->Properties->Time, and change the end time to say 10seconds, right?
07:35 < pxegeek> Most of the time this seems to cause synfig to die :(
07:35 < pxegeek> Occasionally it works, but seems to be with simpler pictures
07:35 < pabs3> hmm, ok. Just tried it here with an empty image, and it worked fine
07:35 < pabs3> have you got an example it crashes with?
07:36 < pxegeek> Yes, with an empty canvas it's not an issue
07:36 < pxegeek> Sure - how you want me to get it to you?
07:37 < pxegeek> Let me see if I can remember my webpage upload password :)
07:39 < pabs3> :) dcc works here
07:41 < pabs3> worked fine with a simple bline
07:42 < pabs3> same with simple rectangle
07:42  * pabs3 tries with one of the examples
07:43 < pabs3> about_dialog works
07:44 < pxegeek> OK, here we go
07:44 < pxegeek> http://pxegeek.home.comcast.net/Scoobydoo.sif
07:44 < pxegeek> Warning - may contain copyrighted images 
07:44 < pabs3> :)
07:46 < pxegeek> Sorry, reading back, one of my comments reads ambiguously.  
07:47 < pabs3> hmm, didn't crash here (SVN 124)
07:47 < pabs3> let me check with a newer version
07:47 < pxegeek> Simpler pictures seem to work, more complex ones dies.  
07:47 < pabs3> yep, got that
07:47 < pxegeek> OK - looks like I need to upgrade and repro again - or upgrade to Linux? ;)
07:49 < pabs3> svn 254 worked fine too
07:49 < pabs3> where does it die? after you click in the box? after typing 10s? after pressing ok?
07:50 < pxegeek> After pressing OK
07:50 < pxegeek> First time around I'll get the Windows "sorry your app has encountered an error"
07:51 < pxegeek> If I restart Synfig again without rebooting and do it again, synfig just dies quietly
07:51 < pxegeek> Console flashes a 'refreshing ducks' message
07:51 < pabs3> hmmmm
07:52 < pxegeek> Maybe another Windows user could check?  And I'll download Atrus' newer build.  
07:54 < pxegeek> BTW the Atrus' build I'm currently using is much more stable than the original one I downloaded.  
07:54 < pabs3> indeed, lotsa bugs fixed since the last release :)
07:54 < pabs3> don't have Windows here without rebooting. at some point I plan to install it in a qemu, haven't got around to that though
07:54 < pxegeek> I don't have to worry about saving before moving sliders 
07:55 < pxegeek> OK - I need to get to sleep, my SO has a head start on me
07:56 < pabs3> :) gnite
07:56 < pxegeek> Sorry to bring a bug report on my first visit.  'night
07:56 < pabs3> I'll email the user list about this
07:56 < pabs3> no problem :)
07:56 < pxegeek> Thx
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08:09 < pabs3> hmm, not even pirates.sif crashed here
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20:11 < madsen> Hey!
20:11 < madsen> Gonna try building on OS X again, now that Darco has made a fix for the isnan-stuff.
20:17 < madsen> Yay! It's compiling! Still going! That's way longer than ever before!
20:23 < madsen> Woohoo! Synfig compiled on OS X! Now I just need synfig-studio. :)
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22:16 < madsen> Yay! It's running! Synfig on OS X!
22:17 < madsen> Hmm, a little problem though... Even though I installed libjpeg, libpng and friends, I only have support for bmp, ppm and gif... And gif crashes synfig...
22:18 < dooglus> synfig or synfigstudio?
22:18 < madsen> synfigstudio
22:18 < dooglus> right
22:18 < dooglus> that's normal :)
22:18 < madsen> haha, ok.
22:18 < dooglus> you're talking about rendering to .gif in synfigstudio, right?
22:19 < madsen> yeah
22:19 < madsen> But I still don't have png and jpeg support.
22:20 < dooglus> here's the bug about .gif crashing studio: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1346746&group_id=144022&atid=757416
22:21 < madsen> Well, I won't worry about that then.
22:21 < MrArmadillo> did i read something about synfig becoming potentially 2000x faster?
22:21 < dooglus> I did
22:21 < dooglus> but it was written by darko, before he stopped working on synfig, I think
22:22 < madsen> dooglus: He hasn't quite stopped. He fixed the isnan problem.
22:22 < MrArmadillo> as it is, synfig is unfortunately too slow to really use
22:22 < dooglus> madsen: right.
22:23 < madsen> perhaps he can be convinced to implement that speedbump too... I mean, before really stopping.
22:23 < madsen> Hmm, I don't have any icons in synfig either, but I guess that's because I built/installed it in a non-standard location.
22:24 < madsen> s/synfig/synfig-studio/
22:26 < dooglus> madsen: you should define an environment variable such that $SYNFIG_ROOT/share/pixmaps/sif_icon.png exists
22:27 < madsen> Ah! Let me just try that. :)
22:30 < madsen> Weird, I can't open synfigstudio with X11 running... I _have_ to use 'open bin/synfigstudio' (which is the same as a double-click on bin/synfigstudio in OS X) and I'm not sure env vars are carried over with that...
22:31 < madsen> At least, it only shows the standard GTK-icons.
22:31 < madsen> ... still.
22:35 < dooglus> I suppose you could hard-code the path in synfigstudio/src/gtkmm/iconcontroler.cpp - search for 'SYNFIG_ROOT' in there
22:36 < madsen> Hmm, probably, but that'd be an ugly fix... There must be some other way to do it - I just need to figure out how...
22:37 < madsen> I mean, I could've just built/installed synfig/synfigstudio with the default paths, but that's wouldn't be very smart if I'm supposed to make an app-bundle at some point.
22:37 < dooglus> ok
22:37 < madsen> But hey, now I can write down the build instructions for fink in the wiki. :)
22:38 < madsen> But I suppose I should at least get PNG output working before I do.
22:38 < madsen> Anyways, time for a little food. Bbl!
22:42 < MrArmadillo> hello
22:42 < MrArmadillo> what is the most stable version with the draw tool?
22:43 < dooglus> good question.  I've never seen the draw tool.
22:43 < dooglus> is it only in older versions?
22:46 < MrArmadillo> i dont know
22:47 < MrArmadillo> i'm just trying to figure out how they were capable of making those animations
22:58 < madsen> The draw tool is in the releases on the download page afaik.
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23:09 < dooglus> madsen: where is the draw tool in the gui?
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23:26 < madsen> dooglus: it should be in the toolbox with all the other tools.
23:27 < madsen> http://www.synfig.com//screenshots/screenshot.png <- 3rd row, 1 column.
23:40 < dooglus> hmm.  you have 4 icons that I'm missing
23:40 < dooglus> draw, sketch, the blue thing above 'sketch' and the black thing below 'draw'
23:43 < madsen> I don't... The screenshot is darko's.
23:44 < dooglus> yes, I just noticed that :)
23:45 < madsen> However, I had the same configuration when I installed the release from the download page. Then I noticed there was one in the main Debian (unstable) repo and upgraded to that. Then I missed those 4 as well.
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23:59 < madsen> this is so weird... I have libtiff, libpng and libjpeg installed, but ./configure doesn't find either.
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